Hi, +1 for releasing netinst package only.
Regarding make binary package only some packages, like spark, markdown, jdbc, we have discussed having minimal package in [1]. And i still think it's very difficult to decide which interpreter need to be included which is not. For example i prefer to have 'sh' and 'python' be included too and some people might have other opinions. And it's difficult to say why some interpreters included but the other interpreters can not be included in binary release, unless we have some policy that everyone agree. Regarding 3rd party interpreter, Nothing stops build interpreter in a separate project. Zeppelin's interpreter installation script [2] supports 3rd party interpreter and Zeppelin already capable of loading 3rd party interpreter binary. However, i haven't seen many people using this feature. I also have some idea how we can encourage making 3rd party interpreter. Let's open separate thread and discuss there. Thanks, moon [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4b54c034cf8d691655156e0cb647243180c57a6829d97aa3c085b63c@%3Cusers.zeppelin.apache.org%3E [2] http://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/0.7.0-SNAPSHOT/manual/interpreterinstallation.html#3rd-party-interpreters On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:05 PM Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Another thing I'd like to talk is that should we move most of interpreters > out of zeppelin project to somewhere else just like spark do for > spark-packages, 2 benefits: > > 1. Keep the zeppelin project much smaller > 2. Each interpreter's improvements won't be blocked by the release of > zeppelin. Interpreters can has its own release cycle as long as > zeppelin-interpreter doesn't break the compatibility. > > If it make sense, I can open another thread to discuss it. > > > > > Jun Kim <i2r....@gmail.com>于2017年1月18日周三 上午11:55写道： > > +1 for Jeff's idea! I also use the three interpreters mainly :) > > 2017년 1월 18일 (수) 오후 12:52, Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com>님이 작성: > > > How about also include markdown and jdbc interpreter if this won't cause > binary distribution much bigger ? I guess spark, markdown, and jdbc > interpreters are the top 3 interpreters in zeppelin. > > > > Ahyoung Ryu <ahyoung...@apache.org>于2017年1月18日周三 上午11:33写道： > > Thanks Mina always! > +1 for releasing only netinst package. > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Prabhjyot Singh < > prabhjyotsi...@apache.org> wrote: > > +1 > > I don't think it's a problem now, but if it keeps increasing then in the > subsequent releases we can ship Zeppelin with few interpreters, and mark > others as plugins that can be downloaded later with instructions with how > to configure. > > On Jan 18, 2017 8:54 AM, "Jun Kim" <i2r....@gmail.com> wrote: > > +1 > > I think it won't be a problem if we notice it clear. > Maybe we can do that next to the download button here ( > http://zeppelin.apache.org/download.html) > A message may be "NOTE: only spark interpreter included since 0.7.0. If > you want other interpreters, please see interpreter installation guide" > > 2017년 1월 18일 (수) 오후 12:14, Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com>님이 작성: > > > +1, we should also mention it in release note and in the 0.7 doc > > > > Mina Lee <mina...@apache.org>于2017年1月18日周三 上午11:12写道： > > Hi all, > > Zeppelin is about to start 0.7.0 release process, I would like to discuss > about binary package distribution. > > Every time we distribute new binary package, size of the > zeppelin-0.x.x-bin-all.tgz package is getting bigger: > - zeppelin-0.6.0-bin-all.tgz: 506M > - zeppelin-0.6.1-bin-all.tgz: 517M > - zeppelin-0.6.2-bin-all.tgz: 547M > - zeppelin-0.7.0-bin-all.tgz: 720M (Expected) > > Mostly it is because the number of interpreters supported by zeppelin > keeps growing, > and there is high chance that we support more interpreters in the near > future. > So instead of asking apache infra team to increase limit, > I would like to suggest to have only zeppelin-0.7.0-bin-netinst.tgz, which > only includes spark interpreter from 0.7.0 release. > One concern is that users need one more step to install the interpreters > they use, > but I believe it can be done easily with single line of command [1]. > > FYI, attaching the link of similar discussion [2] we had last June in > mailing list. > > Regards, > Mina > > [1] > http://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/0.6.2/manual/interpreterinstallation.html#install-specific-interpreters > <http://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/0.6.2/manual/interpreterinstallation.html> > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4b54c034cf8d691655156e0cb647243180c57a6829d97aa3c085b63c@%3Cusers.zeppelin.apache.org%3E > > -- > Taejun Kim > > Data Mining Lab. > School of Electrical and Computer Engineering > University of Seoul > > > -- > Taejun Kim > > Data Mining Lab. > School of Electrical and Computer Engineering > University of Seoul > >
