At least we should not propose to create a top-level page if the user has
not the right to do it.

2015-12-30 9:07 GMT+01:00 vinc...@massol.net <vinc...@massol.net>:

> Hi Randy,
>
>
> On 29 Dec 2015 at 18:52:05, Randy Havens (randy.hav...@cityofrochester.gov
> (mailto:randy.hav...@cityofrochester.gov)) wrote:
>
> > That seems very counter-intuitive. It also is very inconsistent. It
> creates a
> > child by default when within a specific space, but not when on the home
> > page?
>
> Yes that’s correct. If you go in the main space and add a page it’ll
> correctly create a child page inside the Main space.
>
> > I somewhat follow the thought process behind this, but it causes a
> > huge inconsistency and a lot of confusion. From the link that you sent,
> it
> > seems that I am not alone in thinking that the old way was more
> intuitive.
> >
> > How can I make it so that it returns to that functionality? I am not
> going
> > to be able to instruct all of my users to put "Main" in the location
> before
> > creating a new page. Especially since some users have access to multiple
> > spaces, and it works as expected in other spaces.
>
> It also works like this for the Main space :) It’s only the Home page that
> is affected.
>
> For my information, could you explain why you wish that all your users
> create content pages in the Main space?
>
> Why not, for example, have a Content space at the top level or some more
> semantic top level space name under which you’d put all your content?
>
> Maybe the real underlying issue is that you wish to control where your
> users put content by default (whether in the Main space or some other
> Content space)? And you’d wish to avoid having lots of top level spaces
> created “by mistake”?
>
> On our side we have to balance the following 2 use cases:
> * UC1: Create new top level spaces by default when on the home page
> * UC2: Create new pages inside the Main space by default when on the home
> page
>
> Note that it’s only a question of default since the user can pick the
> parent when in the Create UI.
>
> One solution of course would be to introduce a configuration option,
> allowing to choose the reference of the Space into which to create new
> pages by default when clicking on “+” on the Home page. Note that this
> would allow admins to define a Content space where they’d want users to
> create content by default when on the home page.
>
> Now, even with a configuration option we’d still need to decide what the
> default would be :) Right now, for the sake of not having tons of top level
> spaces created by mistakes, I think I’d lean to having pages created in the
> Main space by default, as we had before.
>
> @Edy: WDYT? (asking Edy since he was the one who proposed the change and
> he may have some good arguments I haven’t mentioned above)
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Luckily, 7.4 is currently only running in a test environment, and my
> > production environment is still running 7.1.2. I don't plan on upgrading
> my
> > production environment until I can get this figured out. (aka - working
> the
> > way that my users and I are used to.)
>
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