Hi,

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Dmitry Bakbardin <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Hi, Guillaume
>
>
> Понедельник,  4 ноября 2013, 18:00 +01:00 от Guillaume Lerouge <
> [email protected]>:
> >Hi,
> >
> >you hit just one of the items we're working on trying to make easier to
> >understand and use. This means that right now things are a bit in flux,
> and
> >not quite finished.
> >
> >Right now you can run 2 wikis on the same instance with local users per
> >wiki. We're working so that this is still possible (and easier to
> achieve!)
> >by the end of the XWiki 5.x cycle, which will be XWiki Enterprise 5.5.
> That
> >release is scheduled for early next year, so if you can wait until then
> >you'll be able to avoid a couple upgrades.
> Does it mean that Workspace Manager and Wiki manager will be combined in
> one application?
>

Yes.

See the proposal here:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/MultiWiki

Especially the part about wiki creation here:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/CreateWikiImprovements

Thanks,

Guillaume

>Best,
> >
> >Guillaume
> >
> >On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ghanshyam Patel < [email protected] >
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the information Vincent.  It's cleared up some confusion.
> >>
> >> I thought I was on the latest XWiki but looks like I'm on 5.1.  I'll
> work
> >> on upgrading to 5.2.  In 5.2 are wikis stored in the same schema like
> >> workspaces or does XWiki create a different schema for each?  It sounds
> >> like it'll still use the same architecture as workspaces but just
> renamed
> >> to wiki.
> >>
> >> From what I understand, it's not possible to run 2 Wikis on the same
> >> instance with local users for each Wiki?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Vincent Massol < [email protected] >
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 04 Nov 2013, at 04:42, Ghanshyam Patel < [email protected] > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > I've been using XWiki within my team at work and would like to
> expand
> >> > > adoption of it across different groups.  While doing research I was
> >> > > thoroughly confused by the differences between Workspaces, SubWikis,
> >> > Wikis,
> >> > > multi-tenancy, etc…
> >> >
> >> > They all mean roughyl  the same thing and starting with 5.2 we’re
> merging
> >> > all concepts together. We’re removing the terminology “workspace” in
> >> favor
> >> > of “wiki” (or “subwiki”).
> >> >
> >> > > What I would like to do is be able to run one instance of XWiki and
> be
> >> > able
> >> > > to create separate Wikis (in different schemas).  Within each Wiki
> I'd
> >> > like
> >> > > to allow users to create their own Workspaces (I think I'm using
> that
> >> > > correctly).
> >> >
> >> > Nope ;) A workspace is a subwiki with no local users (only global
> users).
> >> >
> >> > > Example:
> >> > > - IT Wiki
> >> > >    -- Bob's Workspace
> >> > >    -- Alice's Workspace
> >> > >
> >> > > - Finance Wiki
> >> > >    -- Joe's Workspace
> >> > >    -- Jane's Workspace
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I want to be able to keep the users separated between the IT Wiki
> and
> >> > > Finance Wiki but allow shared users for the Workspaces under each of
> >> > those
> >> > > Wikis.
> >> > >
> >> > > I think installing the Wiki Manager Application and Workspace
> >> Application
> >> > > should do the trick.  However, it sounds like Wiki Manager is the
> old
> >> way
> >> > > of doing it and it's being deprecated.
> >> >
> >> > These are installed by default starting with 5.2.
> >> >
> >> > There’s no notion of nested wikis though so what you wish to do is not
> >> > possible.
> >> >
> >> > What you can do is have a flat structure with 4 wikis:
> >> >
> >> > - Bob IT wiki
> >> > - Alice IT wiki
> >> > - Joe Finance wiki
> >> > - Jane Finance wiki
> >> >
> >> > or have 2 wikis with spaces:
> >> >
> >> > - IT wiki
> >> >   — Bob's **space**
> >> >   — Alice's **space**
> >> > - Finance wiki
> >> >   — Joe's **space**
> >> >   — Jane's **space”
> >> >
> >> > You should really use XWiki 5.2 (and 5.3 when it’s out since we’re
> >> > currently working on this topic to improve it), it makes all this
> >> simpler.
> >> >
> >> > Now yes you’re right in that you can install Wiki Manager Application.
> >> > Workspace Application won’t help you since it create subwikis that use
> >> > global users only.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > -Vincent
> >> >
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>
> Dmitry
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