On 07/07/2010 07:32 AM, Thomas Hoeschele wrote: > Hi, > > yeah but i thought the database would handle any conflicts, beside a read > only mode is enough for enterprise environment. It would allow employees to > access all the information needed offline, changes could be code only like > XEclipse, which get solved once online again. E.G. in the company I'm working > most of our handbooks, guidelines should get accessed through XWiki; often > employees go to meetings on buildings sites where there is no internet > connection, which means they have to access all the handbooks via filesystem, > which is slow as they need to scroll through a foldersystem with ~1000 guides. > I think here would be the real advantage of an offline XWiki.
This could be done with offline browser storage (HTML5). > > >> Well this is not really enough, as this locks you in read-only mode. >> Concerto was meant to provide offline, but you need some additional code >> and storage on both the server and the client to run the replication >> model. >> The replication model is what guarantees solutions to conflicts.. >> >> Now conflict are very very rare when you look at the use cases, and a >> much simpler replication model which could fail on conflicts would be >> probably largely enough for most cases. >> >> Concerto is quite overkill for the simple replication scenario. The >> power of Concerto is P2P replication just using a relay network which >> does not store anything. But in this world this scenario does not have a >> big future. >> >> Ludovic >> >>>> This sounds kind of like Concerto also sharing the Advantages and the >>>> Disadvanges >>>> >>>> However, some mid way would be nice in future (the sooner the better) >> simple >>>> rendering and maybe search in XEclipse would be great. >>>> >>> Yes, XEclipse does need some love. We'll see. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eduard >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>> Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im >> Auftrag von >>>> Eduard Moraru >>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juli 2010 16:46 >>>> An: [email protected] >>>> Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] state of xwiki concerto >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On 07/06/2010 04:07 PM, Thomas Hoeschele wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just jumping in here, as I have to ask this: is there any Possilibity >> to >>>>> >>>> Use XWiki Offline apart from Concerto? I consider this a crucial >> feature for >>>> a lot of enterprise where employees have to work outside or have no >> internet >>>> in meetings. >>>> >>>>> Btw, I thing something like XEclipse with Page preview would suffice. >>>>> >>>>> thank ! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Well, XEclipse was originally part of the XWiki Concerto research >>>> project as well. AFAIK, there is currently no XWiki Offline standalone >>>> project. >>>> >>>> So there are basically 2 options for offline work with xwiki: Concerto >>>> and XEclipse. >>>> >>>> - Concerto involves having a local (in offline work context) xwiki >>>> installation that replicates completely or partially a remote xwiki. >>>> - Advantage: full featured XWiki experience. >>>> - Dissadvantage: big footprint, possibly instable due to current >> status. >>>> - XEclipse involves downloading a set of pages (or entire spaces) and >>>> working in an Eclipse environment. >>>> - Advantage: light, syntax highlighting, suggestions, etc. >>>> - Disadvantage: only wiki syntax mode is supported and partial >>>> rendering (since you don't have the wiki's entire contents with you). >>>> >>>> Both options synchronize with remote XWiki when internet is available. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eduard >>>> >>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Datum: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:06:41 +0100 >>>>>> Von: Ponder Muse<[email protected]> >>>>>> An: XWiki Users<[email protected]> >>>>>> Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] state of xwiki concerto >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Eduard, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have fixed the build issues and now Concerto should be building >>>>>>> without problems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please make sure to follow the steps described at >>>>>>> http://concerto.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Tutorial >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your efforts in making Concerto available again. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On the other hand, if you can wait a couple of hours, I am sure I >> will >>>>>>> find a place to host the 80mb jar installer build of Concerto that I >>>>>>> remade and fix the link available at >>>>>>> http://concerto.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/DownloadAndInstall >>>>>>> Please check the page for updates in about 12 hours. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I will give the built installer a go once its available at the above >>>>>> link. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your interest in Concerto and I would greatly >> appreciate >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> your feedback on it, even though the development on this project is >>>>>>> currently suspended. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Sure thing, I'll do that. >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S.: Please keep in mind that, as Sergiu stated, even though the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> project ended successfully, the prototype is not ready for >> production. I >>>>>>> checked it, and it's running decently with the bundled XWiki >> Enterprise >>>>>>> 1.8.1, but you should not use it for sensitive information. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> No worries with it being just a prototype as we will trial it in a >>>>>> controlled lab environment only. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again for your efforts - much appreciated! >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> PM. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
