hey Christopher, the app I used that uncovered the issue is one I use exclusively to validate tomcat releases;) it is a "hello world" style app using spring/servlet3.0. it has simple spring aop point cutting via jamon , simple spring jms (active mq) simple spring jaxrs, simple spring jaxws, simple spring mvc, simple spring security,... (spring 3.0.7)
bunch of very simple examples that end up pulling in "many" jars. I will grab a dump tomorrow, thanks for response, peter
