On 21 Nov 2011, at 13:24, "Jan Vávra" <va...@602.cz> wrote:

>
>>> Hello,
>>> is there any way how to tell tomcat: Recycle after X minutes OR Y requests 
>>> like it is eg. on the IIS server?
>> IIS can reboot itself after N requests?
>> That's awesome. What could possibly go wrong?
>
> Yes, IIS can do recycling
> See eg. at 
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/1652e79e-21f9-4e89-bc4b-c13f894a0cfe.mspx?mfr=true
> It is a quite easy to setup it in the configuration.
>
>
>>
>> I might file an enhancement request for Tomcat...
> If you have already done it, can I vote it for?
>
>
>>
>>
>>> If I add my own script containing "/etc/init.d/tomcat restart"  to the 
>>> crontab I loose the user sessions and users have to relogin.
>> Yes... because you restarted the server!
> As Chris Schultz wrote it is possible to persist sessions over tomcat 
> restarts. I chagned my session objects to be serializable and It works.
>
>>
>>> I experience some problems with OutOfMemory error.
>> Wouldn't it be better to understand and fix the OOM, rather than just
>> rebooting the server frequently?
>
> Yes, it is allways better to solve the cause than the consequence of a 
> problem. But not allways man can have enough time or means to solve it. When 
> an error occurs at production it is better to setup some kind of recovery 
> (eg. recycling) and than solve it at pre-production / devel environment. You 
> can use a third party lib with an error.
>
> Particulary in my case, my app consists of a one single cycle where I 
> download a CRL, parse it using BouncyCastle lib and retrieve serial numbers 
> of revoked certificates. So the problem can rather in third party lib than in 
> my small piece of code. I've tried to profile memory consuption but have not 
> found out nothing. Maybe I had had not enough memory for java virtual 
> machine. I've set it from 128 MB to 512 MB and the problem have not occured 
> yet.
>
>>
>>
>>> On tomcat I run a periodic thread that downloads CRLs and I suspect this of 
>>> memory leaks.
>> Why? Can't you fix that?
>
> If we forget the OOM exception, I was forced to make a ShutDownHook. I use 
> spring quartz scheduler and my job can run quite a long time. So I had to add 
> some notification to stop job correctly. Tomcat was complainting about 
> possible memory leaks when ending quartz job-worker threads when I was 
> stopping app for redeploy my app.

Yes, Tomcat is helping you by warning you about a potential problem.
The last time I looked at Quartz the shutdown process didn't actually
wait for threads to finish before returning.

I had a little success with Thread.yield() but I suspect that it would
not be effective for multiple jobs or a longer process.


> In a single process model (crontab) I could afford to kill -9 the process and 
> I could rely on transactionality in the database which I'm using.

I'm not sure how that relates to this discussion.


> At the end I'd like to make a little comparision. Recently I've used .NET + 
> native calls of dlls, php + custom made php modules (native dlls), jsp+java. 
> .NET and php have possibilities for some kind of recoveries.

I'm not sure what that means.


> It's almost imposible to crash Apache like a whole (control + x worker 
> processes). So .NET and php seems me they're more stable than tomcat because 
> they have some possibilites.

I completely disagree. You're comparing two languages with an
application server, for a start.


> I haven't studied recovery options in other java app. servers, but I'd really 
> appriciate something in Tomcat.

I think the harm this function would do would outweigh any perceived benefits.

If you want to reboot Tomcat periodically employ cron and the service wrapper.


p


> Jan
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