no Andre, I did mean the Railo list, that was not directed at you or anyone else here, you have been perfectly helpful so far.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:57 PM, André Warnier <[email protected]> wrote: > Russ Michaels wrote: >> >> For some reason some of the folks on the Railo list seem to have got >> quite aggressive toward me due to my wording in my original post where >> I said. > > ... > > I suppose that above, you mean the Tomcat list. > And I regret if I in particular may have sounded aggressive, that was not > the purpose of my "sermon". > > I was only trying to explain that, this being a Tomcat list, most of the > people may not know anything about Railo (I certainly don't), and not have > any idea about what it does to Tomcat or its configuration files, and hence > not have any initial idea what the real source of the problem could be. > We also have no direct access to your Tomcat host, so we cannot just browse > around and try to figure out what's wrong by ourselves. > > In other words, we are really trying to help, but from a difficult starting > point. > We are blind and paralytic, and you are our eyes and hands. If you want us > to be able to help, you have to do precisely what we tell you to do, and > tell us precisely what you see. Otherwise there is no way we can figure it > out, and we will have to send you back to the Railo list. (Not because we > are mean or unhelpful, but because we have no clue). > > What we should normally tell you to do, is to install another Tomcat from > the Tomcat website, try it and see if the manager app works. Then if it > does, let you compare /these/ two configurations and figure out the > differences by yourself. > But we are not going to do that quite yet because we like challenges, so > > We would like you to start from a point which we may know about a bit better > (a "more standard" Tomcat configuration), without asking you to undo > everything and start clean. Then we will see if with such a configuration > the manager works (like it does in the "real standard" configuration which > the normal Tomcat installer sets up). And then, gradually, get back to your > current configuration where it /seems/ not to work. > We are hoping to be able to spot what change makes it suddenly not work as > expected, or even if with this more basic configuration it does not work. > > Right now : > - we don't know which version of Tomcat you are running > - we don't know if the Railo installer installs a full Tomcat, including a > manager app or not, and we don't know what configuration changes it makes > compared to a standard Tomcat. > - we are supposing that when you issue your URL calls, it is from a browser > running on the same host as the one where you have Tomcat and Railo > installed > - we are supposing that on your host, the name "localhost" is really > equivalent to the IP address 127.0.0.1 > - after your 10th post or so, we have learned that you had 2 <Host> tags in > the server.xml, sharing apparently the same "webapps" dir. We don't really > know where that comes from (the standard Tomcat install configures just one > Host), not if it matters here. > - we also know that after you ran the Railo installer, you also ran > something else which we do not know either, and then you made some more > changes back and forth manually to the configuration. That does not clarify > the situation for us. > - we do not know the top path of your Tomcat installation (thus we do not > know really where the "webapps" dir is located) > > But > > - We know that you are getting an HTTP error 404 when you try to access > "http://localhost:8888/manager/html";. So we know that a Tomcat is running, > but it is not finding that page where it expects to find it. > > At some point you have told us that, under your "webapps" directory, you > have the following sub-directories : > docs > host-manager > manager > root > > The sub-directory "root" above should be "ROOT" uppercase. It matters > greatly, even under Windows. > Because if it is really "root" like you wrote, then in principle the URL > which you say is working (http://localhost:8888/index.jsp), should not be > working. > And if it is really "root", then it means that either the Railo installer is > broken, or you have somehow renamed that directory, or copied it from > somewhere else without paying attention to case. > > So please : > 1) tell us the full path of the top Tomcat installation directory, amd its > version if you know it > 2) stop Tomcat (telling us how you do that) > 3) rename the above "webapps/root" directory to "webapps/ROOT" if necessary > 4) in your (tomcat_dir)/conf/server.xml, delete or comment out the second > <Host>...</Host> section, leaving only the Host named "localhost" > 5) restart Tomcat (telling us how you do that) and wait 10 sec. > 6) from a browser on the same host, access "http://localhost:8888";, and then > redo the same again while pressing "shift" and the "reload" icon. > If what you see is a page with a Tomcat logo and a menu on the left, then > it's fine. Otherwise, tell us what page you do see. > 7) if the page above worked fine, then click on the "Tomcat Manager" link in > that menu and tell us what happens. (You should normally get an > authentication dialog). > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > -- -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services & solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com : ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine skype me : russmichaels --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
