Be reassured : your questions are not stupid.
It is just that your situation is a bit unusual, so it takes us time to figure out precisely what you want to achieve, and to try to fit this (if it has to be fitted) to how Tomcat handles sessions and session-id's. But maybe this is just a misconception on our part, and some parts of your explanations are still not very clear. So let's try to summarise.

a) the "clients" in this case are not browsers, but proprietary equipment which runs some software (also under your direct/indirect control) which is capable of receiving/sending messages with a webserver (in this case Tomcat, fronted by Apache httpd), using the HTTP protocol. But they cannot handle HTTP cookies, and they cannot handle URL-rewriting.

b) on this Tomcat webserver, runs an application (composed of one or more servlets), and this is what the appliances in question communicate with. The Tomcat webserver is fronted by an Apache httpd server which acts as a load-balancer and/or router to the back-end Tomcat(s).

c) you have a need to handle some form of "session" between a given client and the webserver. This means that the individual requests/responses between an appliance and the webserver are not independent of one another (which is normally the case with the standard HTTP protocol), but your client and your webserver application need to maintain a form of "state" between them.

d) what is not so clear, is if your notion of "session" matches Tomcat's notion of "session". On the one hand, you seem to say that your application maintains this session internally, in other words that Tomcat basically knows nothing about these sessions. But you also seem to say that Tomcat should be aware of these "internal sessions", for some reason which I do not remember. (Is it because you want Apache httpd to act as a load balancer, and keep sending the requests of one appliance to the same Tomcat as the one with which this appliance started the session ?).

e) to handle "Tomcat-type sessions", Tomcat's standard built-in mechanisms (and also the mod_jk connector's built-in mechanisms) require this session-id to be exchanged either via cookies, or via a modification of the request URLs.
Both of which apparently your appliances are unable to handle.

So there are apparently two kinds of solutions :
a) to modify the internal mechanisms of Tomcat and mod_jk to handle the exchange of session-id differently (in a way which your appliances can handle)
or
b) to create some kind of "adaptor" which would take a session-id as generated by the standard Tomcat mechanisms and translate it to a form which your appliances understand; and vice-versa, to take the session-id as your appliances can send it, and transform it on-the-fly to a form which mod_jk and Tomcat can understand and handle (cookie or URL modification).

(a) is possible, since after all both are open-source. But it is also likely to be hard to do, because the code which handles this is probably not trivial, and there are probably umpteen possibilities to do this wrong. (And you could hire a mod_jk specialist to do this for you; there are several on this list probably willing to take on a job like that)

(b) seems (to me) an easier path, but there are some limitations.
First, for some intermediate piece of software to go and get this session-id out of a POST body sent by the client, is complicated (need to parse the body) and inefficient (need to parse each body of each request). It may also a problem for the Tomcat application side, because when something at the Tomcat level reads the request body, that body is read, and it is no longer available for the application to read (at least not via the standard request API).

So it would be better indeed if the session-id sent by the client was sent in a HTTP header. That is easier to parse, more efficient and does not interfere with the subsequent application's parsing of the request body.

What this intermediate piece of software would need to do, is to parse the HTTP headers coming from the client, find this session-id header, and modify the request URL to add the session-id to it. Or, replace this HTTP header by another header (or add another one) (a JSESSIONID Cookie header), which mod_jk and Tomcat can understand. This would need to be done early, when the request first reaches Apache httpd, and before mod_jk uses this information to "balance" this request to one Tomcat or the other. (All of which make me think now however, that if you can modify the client code to add such a special header, then why can that header not be a "Cookie" header which the standard mod_jk/Tomcat could handle ? creating a Cookie header is not that hard.)

In the other direction, Tomcat sends a "Set-Cookie" header (named JSESSION-ID) with every response, and this cookie contains the Tomcat session-id. So the intermediate piece of software would need to read that response Set-Cookie header, and transform it into some form that your client appliance can understand. (But them again comes the same question : if the client code can be modified to recognise a custom HTTP header with the session-id, then why can it not be modified to decode a standard Set-Cookie header ?)

So maybe finally, the solution to your problem could consist in implementing some level of Cookie support in your appliances. Cookies are just quite simple HTTP headers, with a string value easy to encode/decode. You do not necessarily have to implement the full arcana of the Cookie specifications for your purposes, just what is strictly necessary for mod_jk and Tomcat to handle sessions and load-balancing with it.

The result of such a modification of the appliances, would be to make them more similar to browsers in terms of handling cookies. This in turn would help at the server side, in handling their requests in a more HTTP-compliant way, which would probably bring advantages in the long term in terms of application development.

And if for some reason you cannot do that, then there are standard mechanisms in Apache httpd which can do things like this (like mod_headers and mod_rewrite). But their fields of action also tend to be on HTTP headers and cookies, rather than request/response bodies. And the moment in the request/response cycle where they can intervene, may not necessarily fit very well with the needs of mod_jk for load-balancing or sticky sessions.

There are also non-standard mechanisms which can achieve what you want, for example using mod_perl on the front-end Apache. But there we are entering the realm of bespoke programming.

Hope this helps.






Lataxes, Karl wrote:
Our clients cannot send or process JSESSIONIDs as they are not web browsers, 
but proprietary equipment running embedded software that sends HTTP POST 
messages to a servlet on our internal network.  The servlet keeps track of 
sessions internally by assigning a session id which is contained within the 
HTTP request body.

I believe my best solution would be to send an additional header containing the 
session id with the servlet response and using that for sticky sessions.  I am 
working with our embedded software developers on sending this header back to 
the servlet during subsequent client requests to facilitate sticky sessions.  I 
know I will probably have to go to Apache 2.2 to accommodate this, but that was 
something I expected.

I am somewhat unfamiliar with these aspects of Tomcat/Apache and I'm learning a lot of this stuff on the fly, so please forgive the stupid questions.
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From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:14 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Sticky Session Not Working With Apache 2.0.54 and Tomcat 7.0.8

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Karl,

On 8/5/2011 7:49 AM, Lataxes, Karl wrote:
After some testing, I determined that appending the session ID to the URL will not work.

Why not?

I can, however, add the session ID as a new HTTP header, but I have to determine which modules to use (mod_headers, mod_proxy, mod_proxy_http, mod_proxy_balancer?)

How about just having the client send JSESSIONID in the way that Tomcat expects 
it?

and how to configure sticky sessions using the new HTTP header. I am somewhat unfamiliar with this aspect of Apache, so is anyone able to point me in the right direction?

You said that your client was sending this information:

"session-id= <unique_client_identifier>-<current_time_in_milliseconds>"

but you never said where that information was. If it's in the query-string of 
the URL, then it should be easy to fetch and set into a request header.

To fetch the session id, you can do something like this:

SetEnvIf "Request_URI" "/session-id=([A-Za-z0-1.]+)-/" SESSION_ID=$1

That will set an environment variable SESSION_ID to an id passed-in via the query string (unless 
you have the misfortune of having "session-id=[A-Za-z0-1.]+" somewhere else in your URL, 
too). You might have to tweak the regular expression if it won't match your 
"unique_client_identifier" which I'm assuming is the Tomcat session id.

If you can use mod_headers /before/ mod_jk gets it's hands on things, you ought 
to be able to do something like this:

RequestHeader append "Cookie" "JSESSIONID=%{SESSION_ID}e"

That will set the "JSESSIONID" cookie header to the value of the session id 
retrieved from the query string above.

I hope that gets you on the right track.

- -chris
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