RESOLUTION for those that come across this or are interested.
so i added velocity and velocity-tools to the pom and took them out of the
lib folder and it failed, just as it did before.  After some research, i
came across a 'similar' problem, where they mentioned the *-Xverify* jvm
option.  So i went to the appservers and sure enough it was there *
-Xverify:none*, so i removed it and it came up without a problem.  Not sure
if this is a java/tomcat7-6/struts combination, but i don't know of any
reason to have this so i simply removed it and i'm moving on.

j

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Joe Greenawalt <joe.greenaw...@gmail.com>wrote:

> right, its definitely going in my pom, i just did that to get it to work,
> when i get back from vacation, im going to try and figure out the problem.
>
> thanks
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Christopher Schultz <
> ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
>
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>> Joe,
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>> On 12/22/2010 1:57 PM, Joe Greenawalt wrote:
>> > "interestingly its not" - not located in either place (mac/windows
>> tomcat)
>> > as a velocity-[version].jar
>> >
>> > I downloaded Velocity+V-Tools and added them to TOMCAT_HOME/lib folder
>> and
>> > now it works.
>>
>> Don't do that: put them into your webapp's WEB-INF/lib directory
>> instead. Otherwise, you'll get confused the /next/ time you have to move
>> your webapp.
>>
>> > Its not on my mac anywhere, that i can find in a self contained jar
>> file.
>> > Plus we don't have the dependency directly in our pom, thats why i first
>> > assumed it was bundled with something or the problem wasn't what it was
>> > reporting.
>>
>> Yeah, you need to add that dep in your pom.
>>
>> - -chris
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