hi mark,

thank you for showing my mistake. my apology to chuck also.
i will read the article.

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On 23 November 2010 18:50, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 23/11/2010 06:55, Daniel Baktiar wrote:
> > hi charles,
> >
> > please allow me to disagree to that "hanging onto reference" as the main
> > issue.
>
> Daniel,
>
> You are completely wrong. I suggest you read this:
> http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/MemoryLeakProtection
> and try out some of the sample code with a profiler.
>
> > permgen space is garbage collector's specific issue, not general "hanging
> > onto reference issue". it is caused by redeployment, which is the
> metadata
> > for classes, marked to be permanent generation by the hotspot garbage
> > collector. when you deploy new classes, the class loader will introduce
> > memory usages that will also marked as permanent generation.
>
> That might have been true with the JVMs of 10 years ago. It certainly
> isn't true today and hasn't been for quite some time.
>
> Unused classes can be GC'd from permgen. If you don't believe me, get
> yourself a profiler and test it for yourself.
>
> > permgen is oracle hotspot specific implementation issue. you won't get it
> > when you run on oracle jrockit (which performs just in time compilation),
> > for example.
>
> Yes you will see the exact same problem in JRockit. However, it will
> take a lot longer since JRockit stores class information in the Java
> heap. That means you still have a memory leak but it takes a lot longer
> for it to trigger an OOME since you have to fill the entire heap first
> rather than 'just' filling permgen.
>
> Mark
>
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