To list owner: I am not sure if vendors are prohibited from posting comments to 
this list, if they are, let me know and I won't post next time.

Excelsior JET is not an IDE that every developer must have on his/her 
workstation. It is more like a setup generator. Typically, a team of developers 
working on a particular project would purchase one or two licenses. As a 
result, the smaller the team, the higher is the price per developer. For small 
companies, especially for early stage startups that do not yet have paying 
customers, this surely may be a deal breaker.

We have therefore created a special licensing program that has been working 
very well for our smaller customers since mid-2008:

http://www.excelsior-usa.com/store/jetmb.html

Please do not hesitate to email me directly if you have any questions.

Sincerely,

Dmitry Leskov
Excelsior LLC

P.S. The main information page for Tomcat Web apps protection is
http://www.excelsior-usa.com/protect-java-web-applications.html


> Well there are soo many comments on the cost of IP and other tools. when we
> are a small team started working on a web based product with open source
> tools, for sure we can't spend too much on the tools to protect the IP
> rights. because once we deploy for few clients, if its a good product, what
> if they steal the code and also ideas. i agree to have legal terms and all
> that stuff. but that would be a big story for us being small.
> 
> so just wanted to see if anything available to protect our work, ideas
> (ideas at code implementation level by using different opensource
> technologies, well there are many companies who started like this).
> 
> anyways thanks for the comments, i would love to share if we invent anything
> in this process, because small is big and it matters :)
> 
> Best Regards,
> Kranti K K Parisa
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM, André Warnier <a...@ice-sa.com> wrote:
> 
> > Peter Crowther wrote:
> >
> >> 2010/1/21 Kranti> (tm)>  K K Parisa <kranti.par...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>> How could we achieve this without the above tool? Because the pricing of
> >>> the
> >>> above tool is very costly.
> >>>
> >>> Well, you could always spend the developer-years to create your own
> >>> version
> >>>
> >> of that tool... which would probably be *more* costly.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I'll add something to that, just for the sake of it.
> > I personally find this situation ironic : here we have someone who wants to
> > protect their own code, presumably so that they can charge the customer for
> > a copy of it, in order to get back their cost of development and some
> > justified profit for their work.
> > But the same people are apparently unwilling to pay for a product that
> > would allow them to do so, and is sold on the same terms.
> >
> >
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