Hassan Schroeder wrote:
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And so long as you're relying on the fragile Ubuntu-broken version of
Tomcat, you can count on more similar surprises. Good luck running
*that* in production.
Ok guys, I take issue with that statement.
I am not a Debian or Ubuntu packager.
We are using, on multiple production servers and development systems,
Ubuntu and Debian Tomcat packages. They are not "broken"; they work fine.
The packagers of Debian and Ubuntu do a good job overall.
Using these packages, you can install and run Tomcat as a daemon, at the
command-line with a simple
"apt-get install tomcatxx"
to install it within one minute, and de-install it just as easily with a
"apt-get remove tomcatxx"
It takes care of resolving and installing any dependencies (such as
Java) if needed, and it fits with the other umpteen packages installed
or to-be-installed on the same system. And it automatically installs
(and calls) the appropriate startup scripts, without breaking anything else.
The issue is NOT that these packages are broken; they usually are not.
Sometimes it happens that a package is broken. Sometimes it happens
that the official Tomcat code has a bug.
The issue here, on this forum, is that most people capable to help
fundamentally with Tomcat issues, do not generally know where these
packages install what. That does make it more complicated to help
someone who comes requesting help with a problem.
It is much easier when a user wanting help has installed the "official"
version of Tomcat, because then everyone knows where the files are.
That is a justifiable reason, sometimes, to recommend to a user to
de-install the OS-specific packaged version and install the official
version.
But it is no justification for disparaging the packaged versions in
general and in the absolute. They do play an important role, by
allowing people without any particularly deep knowledge of Tomcat or
Java, to at least start using it and appreciate it, without having to
spend weeks learning all about it beforehand.
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