All,
Being bored and trying to avoid starting any real work on a slushy
snowy morning, I organized the discussion for inclusion on Andre's
list (below). BTW, GIF/WIF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
::
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is part of a phrase attributed to
Benjamin Disraeli and popularised in the United States by Mark Twain
Cheers...Ken
From: rbs...@gmx.com
Subject: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 2:53:26 AM EDT
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Reply-To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Hi,
Can any tell the maximum number of users can login into tomcat at the
same
time?
Can I use tomcat to run in an online internet application used by n
number
of users and the application runs for 24*7?
Is it reliable?
Thanks
RBS
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From: rc4...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 5:24:08 AM EDT
All depends on your configuration, directly porpotional to "n".
And no, Tomcat is not reliable at all, it's more kinda toy for bored
developers such as me.
That's why we are using Tomcat in a 24/7-environment with a couple of
1000 users, never had any unscheduled dropouts.
Rgds
Gregor
PS.:http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/FAQ/Performance_and_Monitoring
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From: rainer.j...@kippdata.de
Subject: Re: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 6:37:57 AM EDT
On 09.03.2009 10:24, Gregor Schneider wrote:
And no, Tomcat is not reliable at all, it's more kinda toy for bored
developers such as me.
:)
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From: a...@ice-sa.com
Subject: Re: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 8:40:23 AM EDT
Rainer Jung wrote:
On 09.03.2009 10:24, Gregor Schneider wrote:
And no, Tomcat is not reliable at all, it's more kinda toy for bored
developers such as me.
:)
A statistical answer :
- searching Google for "tomcat problems" gives approximately
2,730,000 links.
- searching Google for "Tomcat works" gives 5,070,000 links.
- 2,730,000 + 5,070,000 = 7,800,000 links
- 5,070,000 / 7,800,000 = 0.65
65% reliability is not bad for a free product.
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From: rosenberg.l...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 8:52:54 AM EDT
what a glorious example of self cozenage.
Why do you assume that "tomcat works" is not included in the "tomcat
problems" result?
+tomcat +problems -works -> 1,830,000 results.
+tomcat -problems +works -> 227,000
227/(227+1830) -> 11% Reliability ... :-)
of course this statement is as un-serious as yours :-)
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From: a...@ice-sa.com
Subject: Re: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 9:20:39 AM EDT
I must admit that my first statistical analysis was flawed, and
furthermore lacked an element of comparison.
So I refined it and created this table, applying the same objective
meta-analysis criteria to a range of products :
Product problems works total reliability %
Apache (httpd) 647,000 857,000 1,504,000 81
IIS 6,530,000 5,900,000 12,430,000 47
Tomcat 2,730,000 5,070,000 7,800,000 65
Jboss 967,000 1,050,000 2,017,000 52
Glassfish 125,000 155,000 280,000 55
Windows 37,500,000 44,300,000 81,800,000 54
From this, we can draw a number of conclusions :
a) there are a lot more Windows users than anything else
b) there are about 5 times more Tomcat users than Apache httpd users
c) Apache httpd is at least 15% more reliable than any servlet server
d) Tomcat is the most reliable servlet server
e) Most IIS users have problems
f) on a price/reliability ratio, Apache httpd and Tomcat win hands down
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From: rc4...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 9:36:00 AM EDT
Well, maybe this list helps to answer the question about Tomcat's
reliablity:
http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/PoweredBy
Besides, I guess a lot of companies (like us) don't advertise using
Tomcat due to security-concerns.
I'm just wondering if the OP could digest any information from those
answers now ;)
Rgds
Gregor
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From: chuck.caldar...@unisys.com
Subject: RE: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 9:40:33 AM EDT
From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
Subject: Re: Max Number of users
From this, we can draw a number of conclusions :
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -
Benjamin Disraeli (maybe)
- Chuck
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From: a...@ice-sa.com
Subject: Re: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 9:50:14 AM EDT
Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: Re: Max Number
of users
From this, we can draw a number of conclusions :
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -
Benjamin Disraeli (maybe)
A statistician is a person who can affirm that another person having
one foot caught in ice and the other foot in a bucket of boiling
water, is on average in a comfortable position.
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From: peter.crowt...@melandra.com
Subject: [OT] RE: Max Number of users
Date: March 9, 2009 10:02:56 AM EDT
From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
A statistician is a person who can affirm that another person
having one
foot caught in ice and the other foot in a bucket of boiling water, is
on average in a comfortable position.
... but only if they're feeling mean.
- Peter
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