Yes, I know it's in the tomcat distribution, but lets say you fix the 
TCPFailureDetector I would have to wait until a new version of tomcat is 
published before getting the fix?  There is no repository I could get it from 
and build myself?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Filip Hanik - Dev Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 8, 2008 3:09 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Basic Tribes Questions

catalina-tribes.jar

it depends on

tomcat-juli.jar

both of them are in the binary distribution for Tomcat

Filip

Mike Wannamaker wrote:
> Cool,
>
> Is there a repository to just get the tribes jar or just the tribes source 
> without having to get all of tomcat to get it?
>
> Like a SVN or CVS repository I could get the fix from and build myself?
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Filip Hanik - Dev Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: October 7, 2008 5:13 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Basic Tribes Questions
>
> hi Mike, that's great. yes, the TCP failure detector could give multiple 
> "DISAPPEARED" messages, that is something I'm about to fix
>
> Filip
>
> Mike Wannamaker wrote:
>   
>> Hi Filip,
>>
>> I think I am seeing the message, it was just hidden amongst other log 
>> messages I guess I missed it.
>>
>> However I do see something else when I added the TcpFailureDetector to the 
>> interceptor list, I see two DISAPPEARED messages?
>>
>> Without TcpFailureDetector:
>>
>>      1) Start Server #1, then #2
>>      2) Unplug #2 network
>>      3) On #1 - #2 DISAPPEARED, on #2 - #1 DISAPPEARED
>>      4) Reconnect #2 to network, on #1 - #2 SHUTDOWN;#2 ADDED, on #2 - #1 
>> ADDED
>>
>> Add TcpFailureDetector
>>
>>      1) Start Server #1, #2
>>      2) Unplug #2 network
>>      3) On #1 - #2 DISAPPEARED;#2 DISAPPEARED, on #2 - #1 DISAPPEARED;#1 
>> DISAPPEARED
>>      4) Reconnect #2 to network, on #1 - #2 SHUTDOWN;#2 ADDED, on #2 - #1 
>> ADDED
>>
>> I take it I get the 2 DISAPPEARED messages because I have another 
>> interceptor, but is this the correct behaviour?
>>
>> TIA
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Filip Hanik - Dev Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: October 6, 2008 11:28 AM
>> To: Tomcat Users List
>> Subject: Re: Basic Tribes Questions
>>
>> there are getters and setters for everything
>> and they are all documented here
>> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/cluster-channel.html
>>
>> each component has getters/setters, for example, the multicast address
>>
>> setAddress
>> getAddress
>>
>> breakpoints might not work very well, since you are stopping one thread, 
>> and not really emulating a real scenario.
>>
>> again, sounds like you have a simple test case, if you can share that, I 
>> can get more understanding, and help you further.
>>
>> Filip
>>
>> Mike Wannamaker wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi Filip
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info.  However, I don't see the documentation for the 
>>> setters/getters you mention below?
>>> Also I'm having issues while debugging.  When I hit a breakpoint in my code 
>>> and while stepping thru code, I get DISAPPEARED/ADDED messages over and 
>>> over on the other server?  I would think the heartbeat is running in a 
>>> separate thread for both send/receive?  How to solve this, bump the 
>>> heartbeat timeout?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Filip Hanik - Dev Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>> Sent: October 3, 2008 2:51 PM
>>> To: Tomcat Users List
>>> Subject: Re: Basic Tribes Questions
>>>
>>> answers inline
>>>
>>> Mike Wannamaker wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Hi, I am currently trying to use Tribes as the clustering layer on our 
>>>> server.
>>>>
>>>> My startup code looks like this.
>>>>
>>>>         if(_tribesChannel == null)
>>>>         { // nothing to do if already running
>>>>             try
>>>>             {
>>>>                 _tribesChannel = new GroupChannel();
>>>>                 // must be done before start:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> no need to use any properties, there are getters and setters for everything
>>> and they are all documented here
>>> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/cluster-channel.html
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>                 
>>>> _tribesChannel.getMembershipService().getProperties().put("mcastPort", 
>>>> String.valueOf(_mainPort));
>>>>                 
>>>> _tribesChannel.getMembershipService().getProperties().put("mcastAddress", 
>>>> _multicastIPAddr);
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> not sure what you are trying to do in the code below. if you wanna set 
>>> the port, then simply do it.
>>> the membership will pick it up automatically
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>                 if(_ancillaryPort > 0)
>>>>                 {
>>>>                     
>>>> _tribesChannel.getMembershipService().getProperties().put("tcpListenPort", 
>>>> String.valueOf(_ancillaryPort));
>>>>                     // hack alert: Default Tribes instantiation (Tomcat 
>>>> 6.0.16) does not read value for "tcpListenPort" from properties.
>>>>                     // Therefore, set it directly
>>>>                     ChannelReceiver receiver = 
>>>> _tribesChannel.getChannelReceiver();
>>>>                     if(receiver.getPort() != _ancillaryPort)
>>>>                     {
>>>>                         if(receiver instanceof ReceiverBase)
>>>>                         {
>>>>                             
>>>> ((ReceiverBase)receiver).setPort(_ancillaryPort);
>>>>                         }
>>>>                     }
>>>>                 }
>>>>
>>>>                 
>>>> _tribesChannel.addMembershipListener(_tribesMembershipListener);
>>>>                 _tribesChannel.addChannelListener(_tribesChannelListener);
>>>>                 _tribesChannel.start(CHANNEL_COMPONENTS);
>>>>             }
>>>>             catch(ChannelException ex)
>>>>             {
>>>>                 try { _tribesChannel.stop(CHANNEL_COMPONENTS); } 
>>>> catch(Throwable t) { /*gulp*/}
>>>>                 _tribesChannel = null;
>>>>                 throw new RuntimeException(ex); // todo, exception 
>>>> handling?
>>>>             }
>>>>         }
>>>>
>>>> My Question is that when I start Server #1, then Server #2, then unplug 
>>>> Server #2 network cable, Server #1 gets the DISAPPEARED message but Server 
>>>> #2 just keeps logging the message below.  As I write this it's at attempt 
>>>> #120.  How do I get this to notify on Server #2 that Server #1 has 
>>>> DISAPPEARED or can I set the number of attempts to a maximum number before 
>>>> notifying?
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> the message you are getting is cause the membership tries to recover.
>>> you can limit this, by doing
>>> setRecoveryEnabled(true|false);
>>> setRecoveryCounter(nr-of-times-to-try-recover)
>>>
>>> also, you haven't added in the TCP failure detector, which adds one more 
>>> layer of protection
>>> see it in this default configuration
>>> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/cluster-howto.html
>>>
>>> you should still get the member disappeared error (eventually after the 
>>> timeout), if you can supply a simple test case, I can try it out over here.
>>>
>>> best
>>> Filip
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Also is there any other documentation for tribes, other than the limited 
>>>> docs on the apache site?
>>>>
>>>>    INFO: Done sleeping, membership established, start level:8
>>>>    Oct 3, 2008 1:12:44 PM 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReplicationTask run
>>>>    WARNING: IOException in replication worker, unable to drain channel. 
>>>> Probable cause: Keep alive socket closed[An existing connection was        
>>>> forcibly closed by the remote host].
>>>>    Oct 3, 2008 1:12:44 PM 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$SenderThread run
>>>>    WARNING: Unable to send mcast message.
>>>>    java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host: Datagram send failed
>>>>            at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.send(Native Method)
>>>>            at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612)
>>>>            at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl.send(McastServiceImpl.java:385)
>>>>            at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$SenderThread.run(McastServiceImpl.java:445)
>>>>    Oct 3, 2008 1:12:49 PM 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$RecoveryThread run
>>>>    INFO: Tribes membership, running recovery thread, multicasting is not 
>>>> functional.
>>>>    Oct 3, 2008 1:12:49 PM 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$RecoveryThread 
>>>> stopService
>>>>    WARNING: Recovery thread failed to stop membership service.
>>>>    java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host: Datagram send failed
>>>>            at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.send(Native Method)
>>>>            at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612)
>>>>            at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl.send(McastServiceImpl.java:385)
>>>>            at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl.stop(McastServiceImpl.java:299)
>>>>            at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$RecoveryThread.stopService(McastServiceImpl.java:480)
>>>>            at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$RecoveryThread.run(McastServiceImpl.java:504)
>>>>    Oct 3, 2008 1:12:49 PM 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl setupSocket
>>>>    INFO: Setting cluster mcast soTimeout to 500
>>>>    Oct 3, 2008 1:12:49 PM 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$RecoveryThread 
>>>> startService
>>>>    WARNING: Recovery thread failed to start membership service.
>>>>    java.net.SocketException: error setting options
>>>>            at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.join(Native Method)
>>>>            at 
>>>> java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.join(PlainDatagramSocketImpl.java:172)
>>>>            at java.net.MulticastSocket.joinGroup(MulticastSocket.java:276)
>>>>            at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl.start(McastServiceImpl.java:233)
>>>>            at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$RecoveryThread.startService(McastServiceImpl.java:490)
>>>>            at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$RecoveryThread.run(McastServiceImpl.java:504)
>>>>    Oct 3, 2008 1:12:49 PM 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.McastServiceImpl$RecoveryThread run
>>>>    INFO: Recovery attempt 1 failed, trying again in 5000 seconds
>>>>    
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
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