Cool, that helps!  Sorry about the previous message, I think in my
rage I probably skipped the most important details :)

  Does anyone know any project that has some flexible formatters a la
log4j for java.logging?  SimpleFormatter and that XML formatter are way
too verbose (having the 2 lines per log statement was what drove me
insane in the first place).


    []s Gus





-----Original Message-----
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:57 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Log4j Logging

> From: Hexsel, Gustavo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Log4j Logging

(This must be national logging questions month :-)

> if, according to
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/logging.html,
> log4j is the recommended logger

I don't see anything on that page that implies log4j is recommended over
any other mechanism.

> I've seen mentions of JULI, but not on the logging page above...

Read the page again; it's discussed thoroughly in the second half.

> How does it fit?

JULI is an implementation of the commons-logging APIs that is hard-coded
for java.util.logging.

> Is it a replacement for log4j?

Kind of, but really log4j is a replacement for java.util.logging, and
commons-logging is a generalized mechanism that allows use of either
underneath.  JULI merges commons-logging and java.util.logging into one
layer largely to reduce overhead.  It also extends the capabilities of
java.util.logging to increase flexibility.

> Is it any better?  Can one configure something better than the 
> "simple" or "xml" formatters?

It all depends on what your definition of "better" is.  Since JULI is
based on java.util.logging, you can create whatever handlers and
formatters you want and plug them in.  If you're already familiar with
log4j, then perhaps you want to use that instead.

 - Chuck


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