I don't know how to get JSVC to start without it though, every example I can 
find of JSVC has the minimal classpath variables I listed. It won't start 
without it, likely as it bypasses the tomcat scripts you mentioned. What I am 
trying to figure out is why I have to list everything in /lib by hand, I 
thought Tomcat should pick those up on it's own based on catalina.properties....

Thanks!

-Nate

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