Hi.... SAVERIO,
Yes just posted my findings..... thanks very much, I think you got it with
the Global address,
but you should not have to set up routes on a local subnet.... routing if
its still normal should only be on a router box... they have a million
different protocols for self discovery on a subnet....
I got it working without explicit routing.... thanks again
regards...
----- Original Message -----
From: "SAVERIO FERRARO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Tomcat 5.5.17 and IPv6 configuration
hi johnny,
i want to explain you better.
in an ipv6 network you can ping a machine with an ipv6 address but you
have to specified the index of interface (e.g. index 4 for interface
"Local Area Connection").
So if you want to ping:
ping ipv6address%4
The IE and mozzilla doesn't know %4 or %254 and so they tell us that the
address is wrong!!
they want only http://[ipv6address] without %ID!
So i have thougth that
1 I give global ipv6 address to the 2 computer 2001::1 and 2001::2
(Attention global address are different from link local address that
automatic windows generates)
2 i have tried to ping between the 2 computer but nothig!!! Missing the
route !! Because between the two computer i have only a hub.
3 I understand that missing the route so i have set this route both
computers:
netsh interface ipv6 add route 2001::/68 "Local Area Connection"
so the interface "Local Area Connection" is begun my gateway!!!
Eureka!!!!
in windows Vista there isn't this problem!!!
From: "Johnny Kewl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Tomcat 5.5.17 and IPv6 configuration
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:43:04 +0200
Ah... did you configure one machine as a router... or every single
machines IP6 routing table?
Did you find a "good link" somewhere... I'd like to understand this... I
cant imagine that MS
expects normal humans to configure routing tables....
thx
----- Original Message ----- From: "SAVERIO FERRARO"
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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Tomcat 5.5.17 and IPv6 configuration
hi johnny,
the problem has been resolved!!!
I have set a global ipv6 address on the two computers, then I've set
ipv6 routes on the computers because i have only a hub between the
machine.
They work!!!
NOW,in Internet Explorer url, the %25ID or %ID doesn't need.
Saverio
From: "Johnny Kewl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Tomcat 5.5.17 and IPv6 configuration
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:38:24 +0200
Yes... that because the crazy person that designed IP6 used an URL
escape character...
When you leave spaces in a URL say like
http://123.123.123.123?mything=ure thing
after the browser has got hold of it it becomes
http://123.123.123.123?mything=ure%20thing
See.... its encoding the space but "look" at the character its using
a %
Now if you want a percent it will become..... %25
For example type % into a google search and then look at the url it
brings back
% becomes this.... %25
So when you write code u could url encode % by just putting in %25
but the problem is browsers do it for you.... so if the scope is %4
you cant write it as %254 because the browser will try turn it into
%25254
OR if it does see that as an escaped character... it will try change
%254 into whatever
the ascii should be BUT it doesnt exsist.... so.... ha ha... this is
nuts.... maybe we should write it as
%25%04.... and then you will find the browser doesnt reject the URL....
but in my case it
still doesnt find the machine...... maybe the browser inside the [ipv6]
is interpreting that as %2525%2504
or it could be turning it into %4.... who knows, we will have to ask the
rocket scientist that designed this monster.
I was also thinking about these http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path type
of urls with IP6 .... wonder how u now write those... ha ha.
OK... I actually HOPE we DONT need to include the scope in the URL....
because that scope is
[remote]%<LOCAL SCOPE >
Its not the scope of the remote machine.... so hopefully the browser is
smart enuf to detect the "local area connection" interface...
If it isnt like this... its going to be chaos ... for example as an
experiment I installed a bluetooth cell phone on a machine
and as sure as nuts.... ipv6 if.... showed that the interface had
changed.... means the IP address with scope also changes.... ha ha
I tried putting the [::remote:machine] into the host file and calling
that..... as ip6remotemachine in browser.... also doesnt work.
I still have an IP4 router.... and I thought maybe it doesnt know whats
going on.... so I disconnected the router, restarted the IPv6 machines
on the subnet and.... it still doesnt work.... ie just 2 MS machines on
a hub.... maybe the hub must be ipv6?
Have a horrible feeling you supposed to rush out and buy a IP6 router
and a DNS6.... even for a subnet....
This IPv6 stuff isnt ready... its too complicated.
Will try figure out why it doesnt work.... but I'm beginning to think
IPv6 will never become a reality in its current form.
Geeks dont even know wots going on... a normal human doesnt stand a
chance.
Getting a long way from tomcat now.... but this is definitely going to
come up over and over again...
----- Original Message ----- From: "SAVERIO FERRARO"
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To: <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Tomcat 5.5.17 and IPv6 configuration
Hi johnny,
i think that is a id-scope problem.
when i ping6 a remote computer i just run ping
ipv6_local_link_address%4
and it runs corectly!!!
i have just tried to conect with
telnet ipv6_local_link_address%4 8080 and it run good!
but when i put http://[ipv6_local_link_address%4]:8080 in url bar of
Internet explorer 7 it doesn't run.
it tells me that it isn't a correct address
thanks
saverio
From: "Johnny Kewl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Tomcat 5.5.17 and IPv6 configuration
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:32:03 +0200
Hi SAVERIO,
I just had IPv6 installed on a dev machine so I can make sure my code
works with IPv6... like for example when you install IPv6 on XP and
then http://localhost:8080 it comes into tomcat as a [::1] address,
bet thats going to catch a few guys...
I also figured out a way that you can prove that your tomcat is
binding with ipv6
type netstat -noa
it will give you the PID which you can get check in the task manager
(cntrl-alt-delete)
Tomcat 5.5.17 is DEFINITELY IPv6 enabled...
BUT to my amazement.... the win32 binary of Apache httpd web server
2.2.4 on apache.org (latest one) IS NOT.... even though the docs say
its ipv6 enabled.
Guys... you got to fix that... because not only do IPv6 addresses not
work... the host name on a IPv6 XP machine maps to a IPv6 address and
Apache Web server DOES NOT WORK..... it means windows IPv6 users see a
BROKEN Apache.
Just netstat -noa and you will see it is not binding with IPv6
Saverio.... when I saw your email, I setup another IPv6 XP machine and
tried to call it with IPv6 address, on local subnet.... to my horror
it doesnt get through to machine with tomcat either.... however I can
ping6 the machine....
So unfortunately because Win32 Apache Web server is not IPv6 enabled I
couldnt find another test case to see if it is in fact a Tomcat
problem....
Somehow I dont think it is.... there doesnt seem to be any intrinsic
IPv6 router support nor a IPv6 DNS and it might be that on IPv6 on one
windows machine just cant see the other one.... anyway I'm
researching.... will let you know what I find.
We either got to find a test case... like a working IPv6 apache web
server.... or we got to figure out how one windows machine tells the
others that it is an IPv6 animal......
----- Original Message ----- From: "SAVERIO FERRARO"
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To: <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:25 PM
Subject: Tomcat 5.5.17 and IPv6 configuration
Hi all,
thank you for your responce.
But there is the problem tomcat 5.5.17 and IPV6 too.
I installed Microsoft IPv6 on Win XP sp2 and then Tomcat 5.5.17.
Now I can access to Tomcat page from OPERA with http://localhost:8080
and with http:/[::1]:8080.
I have just tried from remote computer with
http://[full_ipv6_address]:8080 and
http://[full_ipv6_address%ID]:8080 but nothing!
May You help me?
Thanks.
Saverio FERRARO
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