James,

I haven't followed the full thread but are you using the HTTP Server for i as a front end and DCM to serve Certificates?  A couple of years back, I ran into an issue with the HTTP server when I was using both RSA and ECDHE certs, at least using the HTTP Server for i as a reverse proxy.  So IBM support suggested I create all certificates using either RSA OR ECDHE.  I've been sticking with RSA, for now.

Clutching at straws a bit....

Pete Helgren
www.petesworkshop.com
GIAC Secure Software Programmer-Java
GIAC Cloud Penetration Tester
AWS Certified Cloud Practitioner
Microsoft Certified: Azure Fundamentals

On 12/27/2024 10:35 AM, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
On 12/27/24 8:14 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:

When you got Chrome working again, which cipher suite did it successfully negotiate? If you try in this configuration with Firefox, which cipher suite is successfully negotiated?

Dear Christopher:

At this time, switching them back to the "no keyAlias clause" configuration is a non-starter (maybe sometime Sunday).

But with the working configuration, Firefox reports "TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, 128 bit keys, TLS 1.2" and Chrome reports "TLS 1.2, ECDHE_RSA with P-256 and AES_128_GCM." (which *sounds* like a dumbed-down restatement of the same thing).

Again, with the working configuration, SSLLabs reports:

TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0x33) DH 2048 bits   FS   WEAK    128
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0xc013)   ECDH secp521r1 (eq. 15360 bits RSA)   FS   WEAK    128 TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (0x67)   DH 2048 bits   FS WEAK    128
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (0x9e)   DH 2048 bits FS    128
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (0xc027)   ECDH secp521r1 (eq. 15360 bits RSA)   FS   WEAK    128 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (0xc02f)   ECDH secp521r1 (eq. 15360 bits RSA)   FS    128
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (0x39)   DH 2048 bits   FS WEAK    256
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (0xc014)   ECDH secp521r1 (eq. 15360 bits RSA)   FS   WEAK    256 TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (0x6b)   DH 2048 bits   FS WEAK    256
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0x9f)   DH 2048 bits FS    256
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 (0xc028)   ECDH secp521r1 (eq. 15360 bits RSA)   FS   WEAK    256 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0xc030)   ECDH secp521r1 (eq. 15360 bits RSA)   FS    256

and

Android 4.4.2    RSA 2048 (SHA256) TLS 1.2    TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp521r1  FS Android 5.0.0    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA   ECDH secp521r1  FS Android 6.0    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Android 7.0    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Android 8.0    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Android 8.1    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Android 9.0    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS BingPreview Jan 2015    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp521r1  FS Chrome 49 / XP SP3    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Chrome 69 / Win 7  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Chrome 70 / Win 10    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Chrome 80 / Win 10  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Firefox 31.3.0 ESR / Win 7    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Firefox 47 / Win 7  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Firefox 49 / XP SP3    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Firefox 62 / Win 7  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Firefox 73 / Win 10  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS Googlebot Feb 2018    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS IE 11 / Win 7  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS IE 11 / Win 8.1  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS IE 11 / Win Phone 8.1  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256   ECDH secp256r1  FS IE 11 / Win Phone 8.1 Update  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2    TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1 FS IE 11 / Win 10  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Edge 15 / Win 10  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Edge 16 / Win 10  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Edge 18 / Win 10  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Edge 13 / Win Phone 10  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Java 8u161    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Java 11.0.3    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Java 12.0.1    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS OpenSSL 1.0.1l  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp521r1  FS OpenSSL 1.0.2s  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS OpenSSL 1.1.0k  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS OpenSSL 1.1.1c  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 6 / iOS 6.0.1    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 7 / iOS 7.1  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 7 / OS X 10.9  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 8 / iOS 8.4  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 8 / OS X 10.10  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 9 / iOS 9  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 9 / OS X 10.11  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 10 / iOS 10  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 10 / OS X 10.12  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 12.1.2 / MacOS 10.14.6 Beta  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256) TLS 1.2    TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Safari 12.1.1 / iOS 12.3.1  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2    TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1 FS Apple ATS 9 / iOS 9  R    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp256r1  FS Yahoo Slurp Jan 2015    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp384r1  FS YandexBot Jan 2015    RSA 2048 (SHA256)      TLS 1.2 TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384   ECDH secp521r1  FS

I've saved a PDF of the relevant part of the SSLLabs report, so that I can compare it if I'm able to try the other configuration on Sunday.

--
JHHL

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