Mark,

On 5/31/24 12:44, Mark Thomas wrote:
On 31/05/2024 16:09, Eric Robinson wrote:
The results are looking great so far.

Excellent.

Here's what we know:

Before the patch, we had 2 load-balanced tomcats in production for this customer. Due to the driver search bottleneck, we were seeing hundreds of stuck threads during the slowdown periods. To work around this problem, we threw more tomcats at it. With 6 tomcats, the load was spread around enough to keep the bottleneck condition from manifesting badly, and users did not complain as much. We were still seeing dozens of stuck threads, but not hundreds.

After the patch, we went back to 2 tomcats.

I appreciate the show of faith! I think that is braver than I would have been but it does rather confirm both the problem and the fix.

During the same timeframe today, there have been 1 stuck thread on Tomcat A and 6 on Tomcat B.

That is great news.

If the numbers hold, this works out to roughly a 10,000% improvement.

Not bad for free support ;)

Seriously, I am glad that we seem to have tracked down the root cause and that you have a temporary fix that works until such time (probably the July releases) that we can figure out how we want to address caching of "not found" classes.

Yeah... this doesn't seem like a great default policy for a few reasons:

1. Maybe the classes will appear in the future? JSPs? Plugins that speculatively-load, then fail, then download/update, then try again? I'm grasping at straws a little, here.

2. Huge numbers of cache misses will cause huge numbers of cached "not found" entries. Potential DOS? I guess that would be an application bug if it's allowing huge numbers of random class-loading requests. Again, grasping at straws.

But my spidey-sense it tingling at this one.

Maybe (a) default-off option and (b) limit the total number of cached "not found" items to something "smallish" like 100? 1000? 10000? Just enough to not fill the heap if something goes terribly wrong.

-chris

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