Thank you for the clarification!

Thank you Chris, Mark, Adwait!

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 2:07 PM Christopher Schultz
<ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
>
> Aditya,
>
> On 12/1/23 12:48, Aditya Shastri wrote:
> >> Yes. Equally importantly it also ensures that the code is compiled
> >> against the Java 8 API.
>  >
> > Makes sense!
> >
> >> It is used for property replacement in the documentation for the minimum
> >> Java version required at runtime. We do it this way so the documentation
> >> source files can be the same for all Tomcat versions with the correct
> >> minimum version being inserted via this property. It makes it a lot
> >> easier when we start a new major version as we only have to change the
> >> minimum version in one place rather than searching through the
> >> documentation to find all the places that reference the minimum version.
> >
> > That only happens during the `ant release` step? Doesn't really affect a
> > regular compile from source situation?
>
> It actually happens when building the documentation. It has nothing to
> do with the source, which may be confusing if you are just reading the
> Ant property names. We probably could have chosen a better name for that
> property, or at least written a bit of documentation for it to make it
> clear.
>
> -chris
>
> > On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 3:41 AM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 30/11/2023 23:38, Aditya Shastri wrote:
> >>> Thanks for the response Adwait.
> >>>
> >>> My ant skills are lacking. Does the minimum bytecode definition come
> >>> from this line?
> >>> <property name="compile.release" value="8"/>
> >>
> >> Yes. Equally importantly it also ensures that the code is compiled
> >> against the Java 8 API.
> >>
> >>> What does this line do?
> >>>     <property name="min.java.version" value="8"/>
> >>
> >> It is used for property replacement in the documentation for the minimum
> >> Java version required at runtime. We do it this way so the documentation
> >> source files can be the same for all Tomcat versions with the correct
> >> minimum version being inserted via this property. It makes it a lot
> >> easier when we start a new major version as we only have to change the
> >> minimum version in one place rather than searching through the
> >> documentation to find all the places that reference the minimum version.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:10 PM Adwait Kumar Singh <adwsi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, JDK17 can produce JDK8 bytecode, in fact that's what Tomcat does.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:35 PM Aditya Shastri <
> >> aditya.shastri5...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We build our own Tomcat 9 binaries from scratch (grab the tag from
> >>>>> https://github.com/apache/tomcat) and call ant (with java8) to build
> >>>>> it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Starting with 9.0.83, our pipelines are failing with the error
> >>>>> build.xml:113: Java version 17 or newer is required (1.8.0_381 is
> >>>>> installed)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The apps we have are only certified on Java 8 and it would take a bit
> >>>>> of work to get it to Java 17.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My question is if I build the binaries with Java 17, can I still use
> >>>>> it with Java 8?
> >>>>>
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