Hello Shawn,

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Shawn Heisey <apa...@elyograg.org>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. September 2023 03:56
> An: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>
> Betreff: Re: AW: HSTS on 401 / error pages
> 
> On 9/14/23 08:03, Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH) wrote:
> > Sorry, I thought removing all content and subject is sufficient. Maybe
> > the message-id header is used internally(?)
> 
> TL;DR: technical details about message threading.  Not about Tomcat.
> 
> This is what happens when you reply to an existing message for a new topic
> rather than starting a brand new message:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6f6xqoj9ndznr1pwnluuk/bad-threading-
> tomcat-user.png?rlkey=q6385e4fqyd2ngp97qgj4bj3y&dl=0
> 
> There are headers in the message that facilitate threading that you can't
> normally see.  These are the relevant headers in the message you replied to:
> 
> References: <9ebb0e5d-1794-92f6-9c9f-
> 47a235a4e...@touchtonecorp.com>
>   <057e2b5435244011898683f843170...@speed4trade.com>
>   <5f704d72-03ea-457c-8d44-792ecda97...@elyograg.org>
>   <80c5af8d-d267-581a-0877-687413cd6...@apache.org>
>   <4011ac44-d7b8-3fa1-5676-34cbd9207...@christopherschultz.net>
>   <c668d2c4-f475-5303-9cba-802edd438...@touchtonecorp.com>
> In-Reply-To: <c668d2c4-f475-5303-9cba-
> 802edd438...@touchtonecorp.com>
> Message-ID:
> 
> <CANQXucfXnysDtn1kmK320AF6uYjrp=nCnmCUVsjbK9zvELan1Q@mail.gmail
> .com>
> 
> And these are the relevant headers in your reply:
> 
> Message-ID: <62e04634351c4c62ae75848a77dac...@speed4trade.com>
> References: <9ebb0e5d-1794-92f6-9c9f-
> 47a235a4e...@touchtonecorp.com>
>   <057e2b5435244011898683f843170...@speed4trade.com>
>   <5f704d72-03ea-457c-8d44-792ecda97...@elyograg.org>
>   <80c5af8d-d267-581a-0877-687413cd6...@apache.org>
>   <4011ac44-d7b8-3fa1-5676-34cbd9207...@christopherschultz.net>
>   <c668d2c4-f475-5303-9cba-802edd438...@touchtonecorp.com>
> 
> <CANQXucfXnysDtn1kmK320AF6uYjrp=nCnmCUVsjbK9zvELan1Q@mail.gmail
> .com>
> In-Reply-To:
> 
> <CANQXucfXnysDtn1kmK320AF6uYjrp=nCnmCUVsjbK9zvELan1Q@mail.gmail
> .com>
> 
> While some mail clients will create threads on the message subject, these
> headers are the strictly correct way to show threads.  We also see messages
> where people send a reply to a thread by writing a new message with the
> same subject.  Clients that do threading properly will not show those
> messages as part of the thread.
> 
> Thanks,
> Shawn
> 
> 

Thanks for your explanation and I see that pressing "reply" causes issues.
I already assumed that the mail headers are related to this.
I will stick to "new message" in future!

Have a nice day!
Thomas

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