Martin,

That's all interesting, but we're not running Fedora Core 4 -- we are
running Fedora Core 3.  Secondly, I've got this identical environment
running in production without incident. This environment on this server
"used" to run without incident until we had to replace the memory, and now
it crashes -- same config I've got running fine in other places -- which is
why I'm trying to figure out what's different.  What I know is different is
that this server has 4GB of RAM when all of our other servers have 2GB of
RAM, so that is a difference.

Otherwise, they run the same J2sdk1.5.0_03, all run Tomcat 5.0.30, and all
run the same version of our application.  That's why I was hoping to gain
some insight from the PID file that got thrown to see what might be causing
the issues -- do you have any suggestions on how to debug this environment
to get at the root cause here?

thanks,
Kim :-)

On 7/21/06, Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kim-

Did you see this catch this bit of legalese in tiny print
Fedora Core 4 users are advised not to use the Java RPM provided by Sun.
It contains Provides that conflict with names used in packages provided as
part of Fedora Core 4. Because of this, Sun Java might disappear from an
installed system during package upgrade operations. Fedora Core 4 users
should use either the RPM from jpackage.org or manually install the Sun
Java tarball into /opt. Sun Java 1.5+ is recommended for stability
purposes.

And also this ....
These packages have been modified in Fedora to remove proprietary software
dependencies and to make use of GCJ's ahead-of-time compilation feature

Apparently there exists some 'dependency' not only on package naming but
another depdenency on their ahead-of-time compiler..
Play it safe download from
http://www.city-fan.org/tips/JpackageJava

and install the JVM from there..

HTH,
Martin --

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Albee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>; "Martin Gainty" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Tomcat Crashing -- how do I read the resulting
hs_err_pid11598.log?


> OS = Fedora Core 3 Linux with all updates from yum.
> Java version = 1.5.0_03
> Tomcat version 5.0.30
> ok -- here is the jvm.cfg:
> #
> # @(#)jvm.cfg   1.8 04/02/02
> #
> # Copyright 2003 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
> # SUN PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL. Use is subject to license terms.
> #
> #
> #
> #
> # List of JVMs that can be used as an option to java, javac, etc.
> # Order is important -- first in this list is the default JVM.
> # NOTE that this both this file and its format are UNSUPPORTED and
> # WILL GO AWAY in a future release.
> #
> # You may also select a JVM in an arbitrary location with the
> # "-XXaltjvm=<jvm_dir>" option, but that too is unsupported
> # and may not be available in a future release.
> #
> -client IF_SERVER_CLASS -server
> -server KNOWN
> -hotspot ALIASED_TO -client
> -classic WARN
> -native ERROR
> -green ERROR
>
>
> On 7/21/06, Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> the hs_err_pid*.log is reminiscent of the Command and Control buttons
on
>> the bridge of  the Starship Enterprise
>> In other words you cant tell what the different colored buttons mean
>> unless you read the 1000 page manual beforehand
>> (or in our case can talk to James Gosling!)
>>
>> so here goes..
>> siginfo: ExceptionCode=0xc0000005, reading address 0x00000004
>>
>> Registers:
>>
>> /*Generally the AX always has the returned code from the last
operation*/
>> EAX=0x00000000, EBX=0x0764d168, ECX=0x07e04f1c, EDX=0x0849f7cc
>> ESP=0x0849f7d4, EBP=0x0849f838, ESI=0x07e04f1c, EDI=0x00000000
>> EIP=0x6d0e75d9, EFLAGS=0x00010246
>>
>> /*If you have a bright map showing all the locations of the variables
and
>> their respective memory locations you could map the memory to the
variable*/
>> Top of Stack: (sp=0x0849f7d4)
>> 0x0849f7d4: 0764d168 07e04f1c 00000000 6d0c7a0d
>> 0x0849f7e4: 20ae4238 20ae4238 07e04e60 0764d168
>> 0x0849f7f4: 00000200 00000000 008d00a2 0145381a
>> 0x0849f804: 000000a2 0000008d 2386fce0 00000000
>> 0x0849f814: 04de5d15 00000000 23870238 23870390
>> 0x0849f824: 04d98d4a 0849f7e4 0849fb64 6d0f2eb8
>> 0x0849f834: 00000000 0849f850 04e00192 000001f7
>> 0x0849f844: 0849f85c 0849f858 2386fc70 0849f878
>>
>> /*The last address of the last executed operation...*/
>> Instructions: (pc=0x6d0e75d9)
>> 0x6d0e75c9: 56 8b 0e ff 51 68 85 c0 7d 06 5f 33 c0 5e 59 c3
>> 0x6d0e75d9: 8b 47 04 85 c0 74 15 8b 0d a8 fa 12 6d 8b 16 51
>>
>> /*Most important is sp which is Stack Pointer*/
>> Stack: [0x083a0000,0x084a0000), sp=0x0849f7d4, free space=1021k
>> Native frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code,
C=native
>> code)
>>
>> /*The topmost module indicates  the offending Library..I would check
that
>> (awt.dll) version correct AND corresponds with java -version */
>> C [awt.dll+0xe75d9]
>> J sun.awt.windows.WComponentPeer.nativeHandleEvent
(Ljava/awt/AWTEvent;)V
>> J sun.awt.windows.WComponentPeer.handleEvent(Ljava/awt/AWTEvent;)V
>> J java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Ljava/awt/AWTEvent;)V
>> J java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Ljava/awt/AWTEvent;)V
>> J java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Ljava/awt/AWTEvent;)V
>> J
>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy
>> (ILjava/awt/Component;)Z
>> J
>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy
>> (ILjava/awt/Conditional;Ljava/awt/Component;)V
>> v ~RuntimeStub::alignment_frame_return Runtime1 stub
>> j java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(ILjava/awt/Conditional;)V+4
>> j java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Ljava/awt/Conditional;)V+3
>> j java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run()V+9
>> v ~StubRoutines::call_stub
>> V [jvm.dll+0x8176e]
>> V [jvm.dll+0xd481d]
>> V [jvm.dll+0x8163f]
>> V [jvm.dll+0x8139c]
>> V [jvm.dll+0x9c05c]
>> V [jvm.dll+0xfeece]
>> V [jvm.dll+0xfee9c]
>> C [msvcrt.dll+0x27fb8]
>>
>> /*muck with this at your own peril!*/
>> C [kernel32.dll+0x1d28e]
>>
>> Java frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code)
>>
>> /*Looks as if a component listener was attempting to handle a
>> native(meaning an OS call) event ..*/
>> /*That 0x00000004 looks suspiciously low..(usually low memory is
reserved
>> for System only calls)*/
>> J sun.awt.windows.WComponentPeer.nativeHandleEvent
(Ljava/awt/AWTEvent;)siginfo:
>> ExceptionCode=0xc0000005, reading address 0x00000004
>>
>> Most of these errors are resolved by clean install on other words
version
>> 1.0 Blah works with version 1.0 BlahBlah
>> but Version 1.1 Blah doesnt work with Version 1.0 BlahBlah
>> As you can imagine debugging these scenarios can get very hairy in a
hurry
>> so the more information the better..that said
>> can we see your jvm.cfg ???
>> what version OS are you running?
>> what version Java?
>> what version Tomcat?
>>
>> M-
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kim Albee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>; "Martin Gainty" <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Crashing -- how do I read the resulting
>> hs_err_pid11598.log?
>>
>>
>> > Martin --
>> >
>> > How do I tell when the memory allocation happens?  what do I look for
in
>> the
>> > logfiles?  I sent the output that was put into the catalina.out file
>> with
>> > the original post -- there is nothing prior to that as far as errors
in
>> > processing in the catalina.out file.
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> > Kim :-)
>> >
>> > On 7/20/06, Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Good Morning Darryl-
>> >>
>> >> make certain your HW is rock solid
>> >> then I would inquire
>> >> When does the memory allocation happen (e.g. at Tomcat startup. at
>> webapp
>> >> init, when processing big and bulky PDF's)
>> >> check the logs at $TOMCAT_HOME/logs
>> >> If its tomcat crashing (misconfigured server.xml or JVM bug check
>> >> jakarta_service_YYYYMMDD.log)
>> >> If its a genuine error (thrown to stderr) look at
stderr_YYYYMMDD.log
>> >> If its webapp specific check the stdout_YYYYMMDD.log AND/OR
>> catalina.out
>> >>
>> >> M-
>> >>
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>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Darryl Miles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:31 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Tomcat Crashing -- how do I read the resulting
>> >> hs_err_pid11598.log?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Kim Albee wrote:
>> >> >> The box has 4GB of RAM on it, and has experienced a memory
>> failure.  We
>> >> >> tested the physical RAM on the server, and it failed 2 extended
>> memory
>> >> >> tests, so we replaced the RAM.  We also saw that the swap space
was
>> >> only at
>> >> >> 1.5GB, so we upped that to 6.5 GB.
>> >> >
>> >> > For most real-time client serving applications using any swap
space
>> to
>> >> > service any part of those requests is counter productive.
>> >> >
>> >> > It only makes sense if you are using the swap as some form of data
>> >> > backing store, but then you have to ask why not just leave it in a
>> file
>> >> > anyway.  The most natural backing store.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> so my question is:  how do I read/interpret the
hs_err_pid11598.log
>> >> file so
>> >> >> I can figure out what is happening here?
>> >> >
>> >> > First have you found the file ?  Its usualy in the current working
>> >> > directory of the JVM.
>> >> >
>> >> > find / -name "hs_err_pid11598.log" 2>/dev/null
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Darryl
>> >> >
>> >> >
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