Again, much appreciated feedback.  (I never think what I'm doing is all that special)

Though two concurrent users would really be "wildly successful", each of those users will fire up hundreds (thousands if we get permission/capacity) of EC2 instances and start pounding the db, so I think connection pooling is in order.

I contemplated managing my own pools but didn't want

 - the hassle of resetting the "search_path" for each connection if I used a single (initial) user (if I stuck with the tomcat pooler)

 - the overhead in terms of both my own code and actual resource consumption(minimum connection held etc)

so I switched to the dbcp2 PerUserPoolDataSourceFactory in the hope that the lookup for an available connection happens after I reset the user/db (Recall that with postgres a db is just part of the same physical server, of which there will be only one and for me a user is associated with only one database.)

Really great to hear that lookup() is not my biggest concern;)

Thanks again,
rjs


On 12/3/20 3:18 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
Rob,

On 12/3/20 11:03, Rob Sargent wrote:
Thanks for you time. Your response goes a long way to explaining why
there is so little specific information on embedding tomcat.
Only programmers are interested in using embedded Tomcat, so having "Tomcat Embedded For Dummies" isn't terribly useful. (I don't mean to be insulting; I'm just trying to get my point across about "intro-level" content regarding Tomcat as an embedded product.)

Embedding Tomcat into a product is done precisely because the standard deployment model (which lends itself to system admins who don't really need to know anything about Java programming) isn't sufficient for some special-case. Indeed, every Tomcat embedded instance is by definition a special-case so guides for "doing it" don't exist since nobody else knows exactly what you are trying to do.

Really, just as I said.  I had convinced myself from several items
encountered on the web that an embedded tomcat instance would not
read the standard conf/*.xml.  If I hit any of those pages again I
will react (either on the page or perhaps post here, if that would be
appropriate).
The best references for behavior of the Tomcat class would be:

1. The Tomcat javadoc
and
2. The source code for the Tomcat class

It's fairly readable, but most everything you need to read is in the Javadoc.

TL/DR: at heart I’m struggling with the proper initialization and
consumption of the dbpc2 datasource which I add programmatically and
might consider using the context.xml version.

Unless there is a particularly good reason not to use it, I would recommend using META-INF/context.xml. There are some really great reasons not to do that. For example, if you want to fetch your DBCP configuration from Kubernetes and then use that to dynamically-configure DBCP, then you'll probably have to forego XML-based configuration.

A litany of small issues: >
My @Resource(name, type) Datasource ds” doesn’t take (I have several more attempts planned)

Ooh. I tend to avoid @Annotations and I'm not really sure how that one works, anyway. I'm not a good resource, here.

Is that failure logged?

Dunno.

Is context.lookup() expensive?

No. Tomcat's implementation of JNDI contexts isn't much more complicated than a HashMap. In some other EE containers, context.lookup() might indeed be expensive.

Is there any configuration available only in xml?

I don't know for sure, but I suspect not. The XML configuration uses the commons-digester to call setFoo("bar") for each foo="bar" attribute on the <Resource>, so I don't think there is anything in there what couldn't be done 100% in Java code. You might have to dig-around a little to find the default implementations of various things (like DataSource/DataSourceFactory) but that shouldn't be too tough.

DriverManager is working fine but it that the best access to the DataSource, which I need to be able to change the current database
(in a postgres sense)
Do you need to change the user after container-initialization, like potentially for any given request? Is there anything wrong with registering multiple database pools and then selecting the right one depending upon the effective user during the request?

Maybe you don't even want a connection pool. I remember you saying you'd be wildly successful if you had 2 users per day or something like that.

-chris

On Dec 3, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:

Rob,

On 12/2/20 13:31, Rob Sargent wrote:
I'm old and easily confused: does an embedded tomcat server read (any) context.xml file?  I find conflicting answers /out there./
Using tomcat 9.0.40
    embeddedTomcat =new Tomcat();
    embeddedTomcat.setPort(tomcatPort);
    embeddedTomcat.enableNaming();
    embeddedTomcat.getConnector();// an init, really String contextRootPath =System.getenv("CATALINA_HOME");     Context contextTomcat =embeddedTomcat.addContext("",new File(contextRootPath +"/sgs").getAbsolutePath()); I know it is finding WEB-INF/web.xml (under "sgs") and finds all my servlets, none of which are named in the web.xml.

Tomcat should be reading your web application's META-INF/context.xml file, if one exists.

If you call Tomcat.init(), it will attempt to locate the default conf/server.xml, conf/web.xml, and conf/context.xml based upon your configuration source.

What are you /really/ asking?

-chris

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