On 24/11/2020 16:26, Phil Steitz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/24/20 8:52 AM, Rob Sargent wrote:
>> Perhaps I read too much into the description of "The tomcat JDBC
>> Connection Pool" page?
>>
>> TheJDBC Connection Pool|org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool|is a replacement
>> or an alternative to theApache Commons DBCP
>> <https://commons.apache.org/dbcp/>connection pool.
>>
>> I reacted to the "replacement" bit. Are both equally sound, supported,
>> surviving?
> 
> Yes.  I can't speak for jdbc-pool, but it looks like it is being
> actively maintained.  I can confirm that Commons DBCP is being
> maintained.  A repackaged, slightly stripped down version of DBCP is the
> default pool that ships with tomcat.  I am not sure if the
> PerUserPoolDataSource is included in the tomcat distro, but you can just
> use DBCP directly to get this if you want to use it.
> 
> Others who know dbcp-pool better can chime in, but I think the
> difference between the two is that DBCP has more features (including,
> for example the DS above), but those features come at the expense of a
> larger code base, dependency on Commons Pool (another widely used,
> pretty well-maintained library) and slightly worse performance.  When
> jdbc-pool was first introduced, the performance gap, and some nasty bugs
> in DBCP 1.x made the former a better choice for high-concurrency
> applications.  With DBCP 2, the gap has narrowed to the point where it
> is not practically significant.  The tomcat website text has never been
> updated to reflect this.

There is some useful (although not necessarily from a neutral viewpoint)
history in this thread:
https://markmail.org/message/nhayhdcstkj2lssf

One point that thread doesn't address is that jdbc-pool has better JMX
monitoring than DBCP which is a large part of why it is still around.

Mark

> 
> Phil
>> I try to use what I think is the safest longer term bet (my retirement
>> is nigh, it shouldn't take the code with it :) )
>>
>>
>> On 11/24/20 8:28 AM, Phil Steitz wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/24/20 8:14 AM, Rob Sargent wrote:
>>>> Thanks. I get it. But...
>>>>
>>>> - seems this solution raises the footprint of the pooler, with
>>>> number-of-users * minimum-connection-count etc
>>>>
>>>> - would it be beyond the pale for the pooler to maintain
>>>> username-connectionList maps?
>>>
>>> Per response elsethread, see PerUserPoolDataSource [1] provided by
>>> Commons DBCP.  It does that.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> [1] https://s.apache.org/dlghr <https://s.apache.org/dlghr>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thankfully, I'll be wildly successful if I have two concurrent users
>>>> (a user may have hundreds of clients needing db connection)
>>>>
>>>> (rant.  The RDBMSs really should have a more lightweight way of
>>>> changing current user.  (e.g. postgres set role doesn't cut it,
>>>> doesn't even invoke the users default search path))
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again, I appreciate the feedback and knowledge sharing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/24/20 6:28 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/19/20 12:38, Rob Sargent wrote:
>>>>>> Since the connection URL names a specific postgres database is it
>>>>>> standard practice to have a pool per target database?  (Switching
>>>>>> databases in postgres amounts to closing/opening a connection.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I generally consider a database connection pool to be a connection
>>>>> to a certain database/tablespace/schema, not a connection to an IP
>>>>> address. That's the only thing that would make sense in terms of an
>>>>> application, which would expect a connection to a specific data
>>>>> store, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are closing connections (and reopening them), the pool isn't
>>>>> dong its job.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend a separate pool per database/tablespace/schema.
>>>>>
>>>>> -chris
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