Chris,

I was load testing using the ec2 load balancer dns. I have increased the
connector timeout to 6000 and also gave 32gig to the JVM of tomcat. I am
not seeing connection timeout in nginx logs now. No errors in kernel.log I
am not seeing any errors in tomcat catalina.out.
During regular operations when the request count is between 4 to 6k
requests per minute the open files count for the tomcat process is between
200 to 350. Responses from tomcat are within 5 seconds.
If the requests count goes beyond 6.5 k open files slowly move up  to 2300
to 3000 and the request responses from tomcat become slow.

I am not concerned about high open files as I do not see any errors related
to open files. Only side effect of  open files going above 700 is the
response from tomcat is slow. I checked if this is caused from elastic
search, aws cloud watch shows elastic search response is within 5
milliseconds.

what might be the reason that when the open files goes beyond 600, it slows
down the response time for tomcat. I tried with tomcat 9 and it's the same
behavior






On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:40 PM Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:

> Ayub,
>
> On 11/3/20 10:56, Ayub Khan wrote:
> > *I'm curious about why you are using all of cloudflare and ALB and
> > nginx.Seems like any one of those could provide what you are getting from
> > all3 of them. *
> >
> > Cloudflare is doing just the DNS and nginx is doing ssl termination
>
> What do you mean "Cloudflare is doing just the DNS?"
>
> So what is ALB doing, then?
>
> > *What is the maximum number of simultaneous requests that one
> nginxinstance
> > will accept? What is the maximum number of simultaneous proxiedrequests
> one
> > nginx instance will make to a back-end Tomcat node? Howmany nginx nodes
> do
> > you have? How many Tomcat nodes?  *
> >
> > We have 4 vms each having nginx and tomcat running on them and each
> tomcat
> > has nginx in front of them to proxy the requests. So it's one Nginx
> > proxying to a dedicated tomcat on the same VM.
>
> Okay.
>
> > below is the tomcat connector configuration
> >
> > <Connector port="8080"
> >                 connectionTimeout="60000" maxThreads="2000"
> >                 protocol="org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol"
> >                 URIEncoding="UTF-8"
> >                 redirectPort="8443" />
>
> 60 seconds is a *long* time for a connection timeout.
>
> Do you actually need 2000 threads? That's a lot, though not insane. 2000
> threads means you expect to handle 2000 concurrent (non-async,
> non-Wewbsocket) requests. Do you need that (per node)? Are you expecting
> 8000 concurrent requests? Does your load-balancer understand the
> topography and current-load on any given node?
>
> > When I am doing a load test of 2000 concurrent users I see the open files
> > increase to 10,320 and when I take thread dump I see the threads are in a
> > waiting state.Slowly as the requests are completed I see the open files
> > come down to normal levels.
>
> Are you performing your load-test against the CF/ALB/nginx/Tomcat stack,
> or just hitting Tomcat (or nginx) directly?
>
> Are you using HTTP keepalive in your load-test (from the client to
> whichever server is being contacted)?
>
> > The output of the below command is
> > sudo cat /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
> > 131072
> >
> > I am testing this on a c4.8xlarge VM in AWS.
> >
> > below is the config I changed in nginx.conf file
> >
> > events {
> >          worker_connections 50000;
> >          # multi_accept on;
> > }
>
> This will allow 50k incoming connections, and Tomcat will accept an
> unbounded number of connections (for NIO connector). So limiting your
> threads to 2000 only means that the work of each request will be done in
> groups of 2000.
>
> > worker_rlimit_nofile 30000;
>
> I'm not sure how many connections are handled by a single nginx worker.
> If you accept 50k connections and only allow 30k file handles, you may
> have a problem if that's all being done by a single worker.
>
> > What would be the ideal config for tomcat and Nginx so this setup on
> > c4.8xlarge vm could serve at least 5k or 10k requests simultaneously
> > without causing the open files to spike to 10K.
>
> You will never be able to serve 10k simultaneous requests without having
> 10k open files on the server. If you mean 10k requests across the whole
> 4-node environment, then I'd expect 10k requests to open (roughly) 2500
> open files on each server. And of course, you need all kinds of other
> files open as well, from JAR files to DB connections or other network
> connections.
>
> But each connection needs a file descriptor, full stop. If you need to
> handle 10k connections, then you will need to make it possible to open
> 10k file handles /just for incoming network connections/ for that
> process. There is no way around it.
>
> Are you trying to hit a performance target or are you actively getting
> errors with a particular configuration? Your subject says "Connection
> Timed Out". Is it nginx that is reporting the connection timeout? Have
> you checked on the Tomcat side what is happening with those requests?
>
> -chris
>
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 10:29 PM Christopher Schultz <
> > ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Ayub,
> >>
> >> On 10/28/20 23:28, Ayub Khan wrote:
> >>> During high load of 16k requests per minute, we notice below error in
> >> log.
> >>>
> >>>    [error] 2437#2437: *13335389 upstream timed out (110: Connection
> timed
> >>> out) while reading response header from upstream,  server: jahez.net,
> >>> request: "GET /serviceContext/ServiceName?callback= HTTP/1.1",
> upstream:
> >> "
> >>> http://127.0.0.1:8080/serviceContext/ServiceName
> >>>
> >>> Below is the flow of requests:
> >>>
> >>> cloudflare-->AWS ALB--> NGINX--> Tomcat-->Elastic-search
> >>
> >> I'm curious about why you are using all of cloudflare and ALB and nginx.
> >> Seems like any one of those could provide what you are getting from all
> >> 3 of them.
> >>
> >>> In NGINX we have the below config
> >>>
> >>> location /serviceContext/ServiceName{
> >>>
> >>>       proxy_pass
> >> http://localhost:8080/serviceContext/ServiceName;
> >>>      proxy_http_version  1.1;
> >>>       proxy_set_header    Connection          $connection_upgrade;
> >>>       proxy_set_header    Upgrade             $http_upgrade;
> >>>       proxy_set_header    Host                      $host;
> >>>       proxy_set_header    X-Real-IP              $remote_addr;
> >>>       proxy_set_header    X-Forwarded-For
>  $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>           proxy_buffers 16 16k;
> >>>           proxy_buffer_size 32k;
> >>> }
> >>
> >> What is the maximum number of simultaneous requests that one nginx
> >> instance will accept? What is the maximum number of simultaneous proxied
> >> requests one nginx instance will make to a back-end Tomcat node? How
> >> many nginx nodes do you have? How many Tomcat nodes?
> >>
> >>> below is tomcat connector config
> >>>
> >>> <Connector port="8080"
> >>>                  protocol="org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11NioProtocol"
> >>>                  connectionTimeout="200" maxThreads="50000"
> >>>                  URIEncoding="UTF-8"
> >>>                  redirectPort="8443" />
> >>
> >> 50,000 threads is a LOT of threads.
> >>
> >>> We monitor the open file using *watch "sudo ls /proc/`cat
> >>> /var/run/tomcat8.pid`/fd/ | wc -l" *the number of tomcat open files
> keeps
> >>> increasing slowing the responses. the only option to recover from this
> is
> >>> to restart tomcat.
> >>
> >> So this looks like Linux (/proc filesystem). Linux kernels have a 16-bit
> >> pid space which means a theoretical max pid of 65535. In practice, the
> >> max pid is actually to be found here:
> >>
> >> $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
> >> 32768
> >>
> >> (on my Debian Linux system, 4.9.0-era kernel)
> >>
> >> Each thread takes a pid. 50k threads means more than the maximum allowed
> >> on the OS. So you will eventually hit some kind of serious problem with
> >> that many threads.
> >>
> >> How many fds do you get in the process before Tomcat grinds to a halt?
> >> What does the CPU usage look like? The process I/O? Disk usage? What
> >> does a thread dump look like (if you have the disk space to dump it!)?
> >>
> >> Why do you need that many threads?
> >>
> >> -chris
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