Moin,
ah! The no-xmx-mistake! If you ommit the memory limitation, java uses (on 
server-class machines) as default 1/4 of the physical memory.
(I found this blog entry 
https://blog.openj9.org/2020/04/30/default-java-maximum-heap-size-is-changed-for-java-8/)

Ciao,
  Andreas


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Von: Arshiya Shariff <arshiya.shar...@ericsson.com.INVALID> 
Gesendet: Montag, 14. September 2020 10:17
An: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Betreff: RE: Track native memory of a Tomcat application

Hi All, 

Thank you for the response Christopher .

* A single request, or a single *type* of request?
        A single request (http/https) that is hit once per day

* Does it increase as the request is processed, or does the JVM take that 4GiB 
immediately upon startup?
        The tomcat process was started 3 months back , but the memory has 
increased gradually to 4GB though it does not process requests continuously 
(one request per day).

* The first thing to do would be to post the effective command-line options 
that are being used when launching your JVM. One of the easiest ways to do that 
is to run "ps | grep catalina" which will give you the full command-line for 
the process.
        There is no Xmx set:
        ogw      30853  0.1  3.1 22048736 2068856 ?    Sl   Jun09 154:10 
/opt/java//jdk1.8.0_201-amd64/bin/java 
-Djava.util.logging.config.file=/opt/webstart//conf/logging.properties 
-Djava.util.logging.manager=org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager 
-Djdk.tls.ephemeralDHKeySize=2048 
-Djava.protocol.handler.pkgs=org.apache.catalina.webresources 
-Dorg.apache.catalina.security.SecurityListener.UMASK=0027 
-Dorg.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.ALLOW_BACKSLASH=false 
-Dorg.apache.tomcat.util.buf.UDecoder.ALLOW_ENCODED_SLASH=false 
-Dorg.apache.coyote.USE_CUSTOM_STATUS_MSG_IN_HEADER=false 
-Dorg.apache.catalina.connector.RECYCLE_FACADES=false -Dignore.endorsed.dirs= 
-classpath /opt/webstart//bin/bootstrap.jar:/opt/webstart//bin/tomcat-juli.jar 
-Dcatalina.base=/opt/webstart/ -Dcatalina.home=/opt/webstart/ 
-Djava.io.tmpdir=/opt/webstart//temp org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap start

Thanks and Regards
Arshiya Shariff


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 10:54 PM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Track native memory of a Tomcat application

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Arshiya,

On 9/11/20 13:06, Arshiya Shariff wrote:
> We have a standalone tomcat web application(Version 9.0.22) which runs 
> on Linux . The application is used to process only  a single http 
> request.

A single request, or a single *type* of request?

> But the physical memory usage of the application has increased to 4GB 
> (output from the "top" command of Linux) , of which the heap has only
> 16 MB of live data.

Does it increase as the request is processed, or does the JVM take that 4GiB 
immediately upon startup?

Remember that the heap is only a part of the JVM's memory usage.
Examples of things that don't go into the heap are the native memory used by 
the JVM itself (thinking of the JVM itself as a usual OS process), stacks for 
each native thread, compiled Java code produced by the JIT, and various I/O 
buffers.

> Is there a way to track the native memory of a tomcat process ?

The native memory of a Java application is very difficult to inspect, etc. 
unless you are *very* familiar with JVMs, the memory manager being used by your 
JVM, and the platform and architecture on which the JVM is running.

The first thing to do would be to post the effective command-line options that 
are being used when launching your JVM. One of the easiest ways to do that is 
to run "ps | grep catalina" which will give you the full command-line for the 
process.

That will show any memory parameters you may have specified on the JVM at 
launch time, which will definitely affect the amount of native memory your JVM 
process might end up taking up.

- -chris
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