Hi Chris, 

Thank you very much for the suggestion and all the help. 
 
Ellen

> On Feb 25, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Christopher Schultz 
> <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
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> Ellen,
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> On 2/25/20 13:10, Ellen Meiselman wrote:
>> No, just that I don't know how to set this particular connector up
>> another way. I based this on the instructions on the
>> isapi_connector site
>> http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/webserver_howto/iis.html
>> and on the 2 older servers we have which are working.> I'm sort of
>> thinking of suggesting that we get rid of IIS entirely and switch
>> to Tomcat. Then we can run the necessary Java application and also
>> serve all the HTML items we need to using the same web server.
> Tomcat is a perfectly good "plain old" web server. Some security
> people get all freaked-out when you suggest that Tomcat be exposed
> "directly" but IMHO it can't be any worse than IIS.
> 
> But also IMHO there are always reasons to use a reverse proxy:
> flexibility and availability. When you are restarting Tomcat for
> whatever reason, what will clients see if they try to access your
> application? CONNECTION REFUSED? :( With the proxy in the way, that is
> much less likely. Also, if you want to serve Java web applications,
> python web applications, .NET whatevers, you'll be able to do that
> much more flexibly with a reverse-proxy in the mix.
> 
> - -chris
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 1:01 PM Christopher Schultz <
>> ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Ellen,
>> 
>> On 2/25/20 12:55, Ellen Meiselman wrote:
>>>>> Sorry - no, the quotes were not there except for a 5 minute
>>>>> test of a hopeless theory that they might be needed. Right
>>>>> now there is no secret at all in the workers.properties, and
>> in the
>>>>> ajp connector, i have secretRequired ="false".
>>>>> Workers.properties: worker.worker1.type=ajp13
>>>>> worker.worker1.host=127.0.0.1 worker.worker1.port=8009
>>>>> 
>>>>> Server.xml: <Connector protocol="AJP/1.3"
>>>>> address="127.0.0.1" port="8009" secretRequired="false"
>>>>> redirectPort="8443" />
>> 
>> Hmm. I think we've all been operating under the assumption that
>> the "secret" (by whatever name) was the source of the problem. It
>> appears that was incorrect.
>> 
>> Have a look at Jon's question about file permissions.
>> 
>> Was this a configuration that had been working until recently, or
>> is this a new configuration that you haven't (yet) been able to get
>> working ?
>> 
>> Any reason not to use HTTP(S) for your protocol instead of AJP?
>> 
>> -chris
>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 12:35 PM Christopher Schultz <
>>>>> ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ellen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/25/20 12:06, Ellen Meiselman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes, everything is on the same server.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> workers.properties: # Set properties for worker1
>>>>>>>> (ajp13) worker.worker1.type=ajp13
>>>>>>>> worker.worker1.host=127.0.0.1 worker.worker1.port=8009
>>>>>>>> worker.worker1.secret="mySecret".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just so there is no confusion: your "mySecret" should have
>>>>> neither quotes nor the trailing period.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are those literally in your ISS config file?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -chris
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 11:27 AM
>>>>>>>> <jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Meiselman
>>>>>>>>> <elle...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020
>>>>>>>>> 10:01 AM To: Tomcat Users List
>>>>>>>>> <users@tomcat.apache.org> Subject: Re: At wits end:
>>>>>>>>> Difficulties with IIS ISAPI connector and Tomcat
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've been testing, and so far, there is no change
>>>>>>>>>> in the behavior. I am
>>>>>>>>> still getting the same tomcat->based 403 error.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Based on what you said above...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> secretRequired="true" (which is the default, so it
>>>>>>>>>> can be removed) secret="xxxxxxx"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ...I removed secretRequired="true" and left secret.
>>>>>>>>>> So the connector
>>>>>>>>> definition now looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>> <Connector protocol="AJP/1.3" address="127.0.0.1"
>>>>>>>>>> port="8009" secret="mySecret" redirectPort="8443"
>>>>>>>>>> />
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm assuming that your web-front-end is on the same
>>>>>>>>> server as your Tomcat instance, based on you having
>>>>>>>>> the address set to 127.0.0.1, correct? What do you
>>>>>>>>> have in your workers.properties file?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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