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Zahid,

On 1/6/20 3:13 PM, Zahid Rahman wrote:
> That must be the reason why Apache Netbeans is using a version from
>  2015

A version of what?

> and Apache Struts is recommending to use jdk 8.
Apache Struts 2.5.x supports Java 7 and later. I see no official
documentation recommending a specific Java version over any others.

> Because there is somebody like you keeps telling people it is off
> topic and Giant IT companies are not releasing jdk further than JDK
> 8.

Maybe just not for free.

https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk13-downloads
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https://www.azul.com/category/java13/

Admittedly, Oracle's JDK/JRE is based upon
https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/13/ so maybe that doesn't count
as a separate release.

But no, IBM doesn't appear to have a new version beyond Java 11.

> The issue is a miserable and disgraceful failure in coordination by
> Apache Foundation.

So you found a problem with a package provided by Ubuntu/Debian, and
your solution was to install the official Maven package from the
Apache Software Foundation. And your conclusion is that the ASF is the
miserable and disgraceful party, here?

I'm so confused.

It's worth pointing-out that there is no enforced coordination between
ASF projects. Some of them work together in almost lock-step, like APR
and httpd. Others are completely de-coupled. Some ignore each other
(e.g. Apache Maven and Apache Tomcat). It's up to the individual
projects to determine if/how they will work together.

You may wish to read a little more about the ASF before you make
blanket statements about it.
https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html

If you are dissatisfied with the ASF communities (or maybe just a few
in particular), may I suggest that you take one of these two courses
of action:

1. Volunteer to improve the situation. Usually in the form of
patches/PRs to that project.

2. Take your complaints elsewhere.

- -chris

> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 19:45 Mark Thomas, <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 06/01/2020 18:37, Zahid Rahman wrote:
>>> To all ubuntu Maven  users.
>> 
>> This is off-topic for this mailing list.
>> 
>> Please keep posts on this list on topic.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Do NOT  install maven using sudo apt install maven
>>> 
>>> Install by  direct download  only  from 
>>> https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
>>> 
>>> BECAUSE:
>>> 
>>> "I seem to remember they [ubuntu] have their own build of Maven
>>> which differs from the Apache source.
>>> 
>>> ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven/+bug/1754602
>>> suggests it's a known bug in their packaging/build? )
>>> 
>>> If you download Maven from http://maven.apache.org/download.cgi
>>> and
>> follow
>>> the instructions in http://maven.apache.org/install.html then
>>> you
>> shouldn't
>>> see those warnings. " ‐-------------------
>>> 
>>> The Java 11 warning mentions that
>>> "/usr/share/maven/lib/guice.jar" has a class named
>>> "com.google.inject.internal.cglib.core.$ReflectUtils$1"
>>> 
>>> This looks suspect because the official Maven distribution uses
>>> the "no-AOP" version of Guice which doesn't contain any CGLIB
>>> classes. It suggests that whoever provided that copy of Maven
>>> has replaced the
>> "no-AOP"
>>> version with the "AOP" version, and this will cause warnings on
>>> Java 11. (The "AOP" version uses CGLIB which currently relies
>>> on certain
>> reflective
>>> access that Java 11 warns about - whereas the "no-AOP" version
>>> doesn't.)
>>> 
>> 
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