Greetings;

I found this in the logs where it's hanging-up:

28-Jul-2019 19:05:10.520 WARNING [main]
org.apache.catalina.util.SessionIdGeneratorBase.createSecureRandom
Creation of SecureRandom instance for session ID generation using
[SHA1PRNG] took [212,424] milliseconds.

Thoughts?

John


On 7/27/19, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
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> John,
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> On 7/27/19 19:49, John Dale wrote:
>> Greetings Everyone;
>>
>> A quick update to the folks who I have interacted with on the list
>> (you know who you are and I thank you).
>>
>> I got all of my applications and sites migrated from Tomcat 7.x.x
>> to Tomcat 9.x running on Ubuntu 18.04 and Java 8.  Lots of fun work
>> with the firewalls, databases, and email servers (DKIM, SPF, and
>> DMARC are something else).
>>
>> Overall, I was kind of disappointed to find out that Java 11
>> doesn't include activation and jax libs, but it sure was fast once
>> I included these things in my lib folder.  That said, I thought it
>> might be better to revert to Java 8, which bundles and unit tests
>> these libraries.  So, that's what I did.
>>
>> But yikes .. the startup times are now very slow .. sometimes two
>> minutes.  I understand that this might relate to the need of the
>> JVM to initialize for random number seeding.  Is this true?
>
> What makes you say that? It might be correct, but you are just
> providing a guess, here.
>
>> What other strategies should I be looking at to make the bounce
>> more zippy?  I deploy two smallish war files (<5MB, about 160KB
>> Java Services code)
>
> Note that the size of the code is largely irrelevant.
>
>> I noticed several recommendations for different random number
>> seeding strategies, but they came with warnings relative to the
>> quality of encryption.  What else might be done that doesn't
>> compromise encryption quality?
>
> Most modern JVMs (on Linux) use /dev/urandom as a source of entropy by
> default which is safe enough to use for probably everything but
> long-loved encryption keys (e.g. multi-year-valid RSA/EC keys, PGP
> keys, etc.). You probably shouldn't be generating long-lived keys of
> these kinds from within a Tomcat-hosted application. /dev/urandom is
> non-blocking so it shouldn't stall when grabbing entropy for things
> like random-number seeding (which are used by Tomcat for both random
> session-id generation and random TLS bulk-encryption keys.
>
>> I would like to push back my Java 11 upgrade until I have a good
>> longer term strategy for jax and activation libraries.  Thoughts?
>
> Why not simply bundle those required libraries with your application?
>
>> Glad to have made it through the upgrade .. it really wasn't very
>> painful at all.
>
> Glad to hear it wasn't painful.
>
> - -chris
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