Andre,

Your theory sounds like a real possibility.  It would explain why it only blows up the first time after a reboot.  I'll test the theory tonight during off-peak use hours for the web sites I host.

Thx.

Jerry

On 5/20/2019 3:43 AM, André Warnier (tomcat) wrote:
On 20.05.2019 00:09, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
Just an FYI.... this server has been in production a little over a year.  This TC load problem only started 2-3 months ago.  So 'something' changed to cause this problem to manifest itself. It's been too long to try to correlate a specific server change to the start of this problem. But I just wanted to point out that this problem has NOT been
around since day 1 on this server.

Just in case, since this is a Windows server ..
2-3 months ago, an update of a virus scanner ?
(of the intrusive kind which pre-checks each file that wants to be opened) Checking may be easy or not, depending on your access : disable the virus scanner just the time to start tomcat and check.


Jerry

On 5/19/2019 5:03 PM, Jerry Malcolm wrote:
Rainer,

No change with the urandom parm.  I am attaching a portion of the Catalina log.  The first half shows between 8 and 15 seconds to deploy each app for a single virtual host (there are no war files, the app is already exploded in the appbase dir).  I have quite a few virtual hosts with several apps each.  That initial server start took 21+ minutes.   I then restarted the TC service and got the ~.5 sec start per webapp shown in the 2nd
half of the log below.

Can you refresh me on how to capture the stack dumps you suggested? It's been a while....

Thx.

Jerry

 First start of Tomcat after server reboot
---------------------------------------------------------------------
 [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\JSPWiki.war] has finished in [8,579] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\cis]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\cis] has finished in [11,486] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\gallery]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\gallery] has finished in [9,204] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\gl]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\gl] has finished in [8,469] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\idmanager]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\idmanager] has finished in [8,689] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\itemtrack]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\itemtrack] has finished in [6,907] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\malcolment]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\malcolment] has finished in [8,469] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\notebook]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\notebook] has finished in [10,189] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\order]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\order] has finished in [8,501] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\payment]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\payment] has finished in [14,209] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\projectmanager]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\projectmanager] has finished in [9,018] ms
 [C:\Tomcat 9.0\conf\Catalina\myridetx.net\manager.xml]
ptor [C:\Tomcat 9.0\conf\Catalina\myridetx.net\manager.xml] has finished in [62] ms

 Restart of Tomcat ---------------------------------------------------------------------
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\cis]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\cis] has finished in [594] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\gallery]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\gallery] has finished in [547] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\gl]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\gl] has finished in [562] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\idmanager]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\idmanager] has finished in [578] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\itemtrack]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\itemtrack] has finished in [547] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\malcolment]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\malcolment] has finished in [579] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\notebook]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\notebook] has finished in [547] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\order]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\order] has finished in [531] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\payment]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\payment] has finished in [562] ms
tory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\projectmanager]
irectory [C:\domains\<myDomain>.com\webapps\projectmanager] has finished in [531] ms

On 5/18/2019 3:18 PM, Rainer Jung wrote:
Most likely it hangs waiting for enough entropy for random number generator seeding.

Try whether the problem goes away if you add

  -Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/urandom

to you process flags. If you are using older Java than Java 8 (not possible for Tomcat 9 but just in case you also have older software stacks running), then it would be

  -Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/./urandom

The cryptic /./ is not a typo, you would need it for Java before Java 8.

If this doesn't help, then you should try capturing a few stack dumps (thread dumps)
during the long startup time. People here can help interpret them.

Regards,

Rainer

Am 18.05.2019 um 21:55 schrieb Jerry Malcolm:
This is a weird one.  It started a few months ago.   I have TC 9 running on Windows Server 16.  After I reboot the entire server, Tomcat takes forever on startup. It normally starts in about 30 seconds.  But after a server reboot it takes up to 15 minutes... chugging along at a snail's pace starting up all of the apps on all of the virtual hosts.  It always finally gets there with everything successfully running. Other servers on the same box (Apache, JAMES, ISC BIND, MySQL) don't have any problem starting up. CPU, Disk, Memory, etc. usages are barely showing on the performance graphs. There's nothing in the Catalina log or system.err other than showing a couple of minute gap in the time stamp between each app as it starts up.  If I need to reboot
again later, it boots again in about 30 sec as expected.

First question... any ideas off the top of your head that might be causing this?

Second question... is there any other logging I can turn on that might explain what TC
is blocking on?

Thanks.

Jerry

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