On 18/01/2019 01:40, Tim K wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 3:36 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org wrote:
> 
>> On 17/01/2019 15:28, Tim K wrote:
>>
>>> With the DeltaManager, instead of it notifying all nodes when sessions
>> get
>>> established, is there a way for it to only share that single node's
>>> sessions during a shutdown event of that particular node?  For example,
>>> node 1 of 8 has 5 sessions on it.  When node 1 is shut down, only then
>> will
>>> it replicate those 5 sessions to the other 7 nodes...  This would reduce
>>> the all-to-all traffic that would be occurring constantly but would put
>>> more weight on a shutdown event... Also, another wrinkle, the shutdown
>> port
>>> is disabled in server.xml for security reasons.
>>
>> None of the managers can be configured to replicate only on shutdown.
>>
>> The BackupManager is closer to the behaviour you describe. Note it is a
>> common misconception that in the BackupManager a single node acts as a
>> backup for all the other nodes. This is incorrect. Backups are
>> distributed on a round-robin basis between all other nodes.
>>
>> The shutdown port being disabled should be a non-issue. As long as you
>> kill -15 rather than kill -9 then you'll get a clean shutdown.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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> 
> So to switch to Backup manager, just swap out the DeltaManager for it on
> each serve or just one?

All of them.

>  You're right, it does seem the backup manager was
> a single node, even after looking again at the documentation.  Is the
> backup manager "battle tested" enough since the documentation was written?

Yes.

> Is there less network traffic with backup manager?

Yes.

> My nodes all have the
> same single app installed, I'm not sure what the advantage would be in
> using the backup manager.

Less network traffic.

See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LoAdy9-jBI

particularly from around 29:30

Mark



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