Everyone,

As far as documentation.
We realize it is very difficult to write open source docs because there
are so many different scenarios that will work for a given customer's
environment.

Possibly if you declare your audience , that would help.
Possibly if you specify minimum knowledge requirements , that would help.

To me , if there is no declaration of whom you are speaking to; then its
written for the general populous.



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Thank You;

Chris Cheltenham
Technology Services
The School District of Philadelphia

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A. Claassen [mailto:mclaas...@ocie.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:20 AM
To: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Security of AJP

Thanks everyone for your feedback.  I am the one who unknowingly opened
this can of worms. :)

It seems like there is a bit of momentum for altering the documentation,
so I thought I would offer something that incorporated some of these
suggestions.  I left out the part about "why" one would use a reverse
proxy.  Maybe it should be referenced here, but that is seems like
something a higher level topic that might be more appropriate somewhere
else.  (If it doesn't fit anywhere else either, I can add it back.)

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The AJP Connector element represents a Connector component that
communicates with a HTTP server via the AJP protocol.  This is an
unencrypted protocol and is therefore recommended for use on a protected
network or encrypted by some other means, like SSH tunneling.  The most
common configuration for this is when an HTTP server acts as a reverse
proxy in front of one or more Tomcat servers.  Besides being a more
efficient protocol that HTTP, there are several configuration options in
this connector designed to allow Tomcat to operate as it would if it were
not running behind a reverse proxy.

---

Mark Claassen
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-----Original Message-----
From: Terence M. Bandoian [mailto:tere...@tmbsw.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 8:34 AM
To: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Security of AJP

On 2/28/2018 10:16 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 09:25:53AM -0500, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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>> Chris,
>>
>> On 2/28/18 8:40 AM, Cheltenham, Chris wrote:
>>> Since AJP is not really needed by Tomcat; If I comment out the AJP
>>> startup line in server.xml will that affect anything.
>>>
>>> I still don't even understand what its for. I have read the apache
>>> docs but it doesn't mean anything to me.. Apache's description
>>> doesn't tell me anything.
>>>
>>>
>>> The AJP Connector element represents a Connector component that
>>> communicates with a web connector via the AJP protocol. This is used
>>> for cases where you wish to invisibly integrate Tomcat into an
>>> existing (or new) Apache installation, and you want Apache to handle
>>> the static content contained in the web application, and/or utilize
>>> Apache's SSL processing.
>>>
>>> That is mumbo jumbo.
>> Is it?
> Well, it could be improved.  For example, by using the
> widely-understood word "proxy" somewhere, or defining "web connector".
> Also by recalling that "Apache" is a huge array of various projects
> (including Tomcat!), while "Apache HTTP Server" refers to a specific
> web server daemon that can front-end Tomcat.  One could even link
> "Apache HTTP Server" to 'http://httpd.apache.org/'.
>

+1.  Maybe "...communicates with an HTTP server via..." in the first
sentence?  Also, the second sentence could be greatly simplified.

-Terence Bandoian


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