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Mark,

On 8/24/16 3:34 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 24/08/2016 17:56, Toews, Timothy wrote:
>> Hello all:
>> 
>> I am new to this list as of half an hour ago. I am concurrently
>> searching the archives for a potential solution to the error
>> message I have included below. This error happens on a daily
>> basis for our office, attempting to login to a server where we
>> store files that document our site processes and procedures. Any
>> and all help is appreciated. Thanks in advance
> 
> 4.1.29 ? You know that version was released in 2003 right? (No,
> that isn't a typo.)

Hey! There's someone out there running an older version of Tomcat than
I am!

Timothy,

I tip my crown to you, sir, as I pass it -- the crown -- to you.

I'm kidding.

Well, no, I'm not, but I'm not trying to make fun of you.

A few years ago when I joined this list, I was running Tomcat 4.1.x
and everyone was furrowing their brows at me. I pain-stakingly went
through the upgrade cycle from 4.1 -> 5.5 -> 6.0 -> 7.0 -> 8.0. It
only took me ... a few years. We only just had a software release this
summer (northern hemisphere) on Tomcat 8.

Then these jokers had to go and release Tomcat 8.5.

But now I'm a committer. And I feel your pain. You don't care about
all the jokes and "hey, man, you need to upgrade"... you just want to
solve your problem.

Well, I'm going to tell you that "just solving your problem" is not
really an option for a number of reasons. In super-compact form,
here's a list of reasons why:

1. Publicly-disclosed security vulnerabilities
2. Near-zero support

Also, if you are running Tomcat 4.1, you probably also have some
seriously old versions of things like Java. If you don't have a recent
version of Java, then you can't support things like TLS. TLS support
was added to Java in version 1.4 when JSSE was integrated into the
standard Java Runtime packages. (Before then, it was an add-on).

Older Java versions have wonderful flaws like this one:
http://www.exploringbinary.com/java-hangs-when-converting-2-225073858507
2012e-308/

I would encourage you to think very seriously about migrating your
system to Tomcat 8.0.x running on Java 1.8. In many cases, all you
have to do is copy your application's WAR file (or exploded WAR
directory... whatever you've got in your webapps/ directory) into a
Tomcat 8 auto-deployment directory and your app will just work.

It's also possible that a bunch of things won't work. But we can help
you if you choose to take this route.

> At this point, this looks more like an application bug that a
> Tomcat bug.

Agreed. There's probably more in the log file that was initially posted.

- -chris
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