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gmc,
On 2/26/16 4:48 PM, gmc filter wrote:
> Thanks Mark, Regretfully, my favorite IDE right now is IntelliJ (I
> use the free one) but it seems pretty obvious that it's not the
> right choice for developing this kind of application, as it doesn't
> have any explicit support for this kind of development at all. I
> might just have to buckle down and stat using netbeans or eclipse
> and convince others to as well.
>
> I know how to write scripts and create complicated build/run
> actions in IntelliJ, but things definitely take on the order of
> seconds when I would prefer they were instant. I will take a look
> at Takari and see if it can help me.
There are lots of folks who prefer IntelliJ, and many who feel that
Eclipse is a steaming pile of garbage compared to IntelliJ. So, my
guess is that this is possible in IJ -- you just need to figure out
how it works.
This list might not be the best place to ask, unfortunately.
- -chris
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Mark Eggers
> <its_toas...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> On 2/26/2016 12:36 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>>>> To whom it may concern,
>>>>
>>>> On 2/26/16 2:07 PM, gmc filter wrote:
>>>>> Chris, I am specifically trying to avoid rebuilding the
>>>>> project each time I make small changes in jsp/html/whatever
>>>>> files, if that is what you are suggesting. Now that you
>>>>> mention this, I doubt any maven plugin can achieve what I'm
>>>>> trying to do either.
>>>>
>>>> This is one of my big problems with Maven: it doesn't seem
>>>> to really be geared towards /development/. I'm sure it's
>>>> great for end-to-end builds, but for a simple "update my
>>>> local deployment with that 2-character change I just did"
>>>> doesn't seem to be on the menu.
>>>>
>>>>> That did give me an idea though. I suppose I could write a
>>>>> script which simply overwrites the deployed file with a
>>>>> copy from my workspace... I would have to run this script
>>>>> each time I want to review my changes, which is
>>>>> disappointing, but I guess it will work for now.
>>>>
>>>> For me, ant is integrated into my IDE. When I want to
>>>> publish changes to my locally-running dev environment, I just
>>>> click a button and it's done in a few ms. Tomcat reloads the
>>>> resource and I'm good to go.
>>>>
>>>> -chris
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Christopher Schultz <
>>>>> ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> To whom it may concern,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/26/16 11:53 AM, gmc filter wrote:
>>>>>>> I am currently using Maven to build my project and
>>>>>>> compile it into a WAR file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does Maven have some plugin that can help me achieve
>>>>>>> what I am trying to
>>>>>> do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Maven doesn't know how to copy one file from one place
>>>>>> to another, I'm still comfortable with my decision to
>>>>>> completely ignore its existence as a build tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With ant, it's as simple as (paraphrasing):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <copy toDir="${deploy.dir}"> <fileset
>>>>>> dir="${jsp.source.dir}" includes="**/*.jsp" /> </copy>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Christopher Schultz
>>>>>>> < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To whom it may concern,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/25/16 4:08 PM, gmc filter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all, I'm having some trouble with tomcat and
>>>>>>>>> symbolic links. I am working
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> OSX and I use a local instance of Tomcat to do
>>>>>>>>> some testing before deploying my site elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I want to do: I'd like to create a small
>>>>>>>>> script which will stop tomcat, clear out old
>>>>>>>>> deployment folders, rebuild my project, copy the
>>>>>>>>> resulting WAR file to the webapps folder, restart
>>>>>>>>> tomcat, wait for deployment to finish, and finally
>>>>>>>>> replace a JSP file with a symbolic
>>>>>> link
>>>>>>>>> to the corresponding file that is in my workspace.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why I want to do this: I'd like to be able to
>>>>>>>>> quickly rebuild and
>>>>>>>> redeploy
>>>>>>>>> my WAR and also edit my JSP files and see those
>>>>>>>>> changes by simply refreshing the already-open
>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My problem: I have all of the above steps working
>>>>>>>>> so far. However, as
>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>>> as I swap out the real index.JSP with a link to the
>>>>>>>>> one in my
>>>>>> workspace,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> can no longer load the page, I get a 404 error
>>>>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I have tried: I have found questions like
>>>>>>>>> mine asked many times
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> usually the solution is to hunt down a
>>>>>>>>> "context.xml" file and add a tag into that file,
>>>>>>>>> 'allowLinking="true"'. I have tried to add this
>>>>>>>>> tag
>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>> "<tomcat home>/libexec/conf/context.xml", "<tomcat
>>>>>>>>> home>/libexec/conf/Catalina/localhost/context.xml"
>>>>>>>>> (created this one)
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> also "<tomcat
>>>>>>>>> home>/libexec/webapps/appname/META-INF/context.xml".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
After
>>>>>>>>> multiple restarts, none of those seem to change
>>>>>>>>> any functionality that
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> can see.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By trial and error, I have eventually found that if
>>>>>>>>> I follow these
>>>>>>>> steps, I
>>>>>>>>> can get the link to work for a little while...
>>>>>>>>> Deploy the WAR Load the page (It works) Move
>>>>>>>>> index_bs.jsp to index_bs.jsp.bak (in the webapp
>>>>>>>>> directory) Load the page (404, as expected) Create
>>>>>>>>> a symbolic link from index_bs.jsp to
>>>>>>>>> index_bs.jsp.bak Load the page (It works!) Edit
>>>>>>>>> index_bs.jsp.bak, save Load the page (404 again)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This seems very strange to me. Obviously I've
>>>>>>>>> reached a point where symbolic linking works
>>>>>>>>> somewhat, but as soon as I edit the original
>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>> (my main goal here) the link stops working as
>>>>>>>>> expected. Does anyone
>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> what I'm doing wrong here? I must be missing
>>>>>>>>> something...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some information about my setup: OSX 10.10.5
>>>>>>>>> Tomcat 8.0.28 installed with my username running
>>>>>>>>> brew brew to "/usr/local/Cellar/tomcat/8.0.28/"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> "/usr/local/Cellar/tomcat/8.0.28/libexec/webapps/hue-web-1.0-SNAP
SHO
>
>>>>>>
T
>>>>
>>>>>>
> .war"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> deployed successfully to
>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/Cellar/tomcat/8.0.28/libexec/webapps/hue-web-1.0-S
NAP
>
>>>>>>>>>
S
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
> HOT/"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> Target file is
>>>>>>>>> "/Users/uid/mygithub/hue-stuff/hue-web/src/main/webapp/index_b
s.j
>
>>>>>>>>>
s
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
> p"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> If you need an IDE-independent build process (which I highly
>>>> recommend),
>>>>>>>> consider something like Apache ant (similar to UNIX
>>>>>>>> "make" but way better for the Java world) or even
>>>>>>>> Maven, if you don't mind the
>>>>>> overhead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using symlinks with Tomcat is sometimes problematic,
>>>>>>>> though I can't explain why it's actually failing for
>>>>>>>> your specific case... I would have expected that to
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -chris
>>>>>>>>
>
> I use Maven exclusively (migrated from Ant about 2 years ago).
> I've never had the update problem with NetBeans and a
> NetBeans-controlled Tomcat.
>
> For Eclipse, I think there used to be issues. I run Mars.1 (just
> to make sure that my pom.xml changes play nicely with Eclipe), and
> just tried a small project.
>
> Changes to index.jsp are reflected after a browser refresh. Changes
> to CSS are reflected after a browser refresh.
>
> My Eclipse setup for Tomcat uses the defaults, so if you take over
> a locally installed Tomcat (rather than running out of
> workspace/.metadata), your mileage may vary.
>
> For NetBeans, I have compile-on-save turned on. This means that
> when I save a Java file, only that file gets recompiled and added
> to target/artifactId/WEB-INF/classes. Tomcat detects this and
> reloads the web application automatically.
>
> I don't know if this happens in Eclipse or not. I suppose that I
> could test.
>
> If you need / want incremental builds with Maven, you should check
> out the Takari Maven Lifecycle plugin
> (https://github.com/takari/takari-lifecycle). I haven't yet, but
> there are lots of features that look promising (including
> incremental builds for resource changes).
>
> . . . . just my two cents /mde/
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