Well Christopher thanks for that eye opener. I didn't know that the specs were so inconsistent.
Okay now regarding your comment-: "Servlet 3.0 added the HttpServletRequest.login() method would improved the situation greatly: you can implement your own login handler that plugs-into the authentication services of the container. It's just that the container doesn't handle any redirection to a login page (none is required) or credential capturing (easily done with a servlet)." How do you implement your own login handler and how do you plug that into Tomcat Auth services. Can you provide some info as to how I would do that ? And what is the extension to FORM Authenticator that Mark is talking about ? Also correct me if I am wrong, then the page that I use to login and the page that will contain j_security_check as an action must be two different pages. Also can I have two <login-config> elements in my web.xml ? On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Sreyan, > > On 8/31/15 1:39 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > First of all I did read the Servlet Spec, it provided no hint as to > > what I was doing wrong. > > > > So you are saying that I can't have a login form on the page when > > the welcome page ? Why not ? Tons of site have just that, like > > Twitter and Facebook. It seems weird why I can't have it on my > > welcome page. > > Oh, you can do it, but you'll have to implement it yourself. Go > re-read the spec's section on how FORM authentication works. Note that > you are required to attempt to access a protected page before being > asked for authentication. I think it's a big hole in the spec that > should be filled, but anything Tomcat would do for you here is, by > definition, out-of-spec. > > > And wait a minute. You are telling me that I have to first point my > > web browser to /teacher/success.jsp and then when I get the login > > page and login ? > > Yes. > > > What can't I do the following-: > > > > First login from the login page and then go to success.jsp? > > You sure can do that, but you can't use j_security_check as yourPOST > target. Instead, you have to write your own Servlet and then > (probably) call HttpServletRequest.login() from there, then redirect > the user to wherever you want them to go. > > > Why do I have to first hit an auth error and then be redirected > > back to login and then provide my user/pass combo ? > > This is spec-defined behavior. > > > So how do you code a login module ? Where I can login first and > > then go to my resources ? > > What's a "login module"? > > > This is indeed weird. > > It's a (giant, gaping) hole in the spec. Inconvenient, maybe. But > certainly not weird. > > Servlet 3.0 added the HttpServletRequest.login() method would improved > the situation greatly: you can implement your own login handler that > plugs-into the authentication services of the container. It's just > that the container doesn't handle any redirection to a login page > (none is required) or credential capturing (easily done with a servlet). > > Really the only thing the servlet spec is missing is a setting in > <form-login> like <default-landing-page> or something like that, so > that if you try to login with j_security_check and you hadn't already > requested a protected resource, the container knows where to send the > user after authentication. > > - -chris > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJV5JOeAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYwSgQAJAARzjHnDqMXY9QexbBpyrZ > DSZSxqCRljdHtnEEuBjlLfT8FRUATIU3g0rHZ99SQSXhgYojfvCZ7WalO3izxu6o > NvmbptcCo/rASOvVqtVYpTu1ONhSgGu/v0fZ7maZksMlb0yXUSHpM5EeUucU92NK > AEnZElXlV+6yf2arN9R5L80lZHxioF5tUkS1RoqYsBr3+1KuS1DzfVVO2NKzPLiK > L03QVRCGdDtln66m6lrbPNjgzhMK3HvqMiHAPuED5sTMAha8uk5HTZfM855ojuY4 > x8whD7X/6JjTemLue1pzd1CfSGx+EDxrgxgOscFyA4PK0zy8vQWnsnb5MAjKtvdw > +8oHg445RDoYG6BYJ1ZXbTmft9APN37PCeyxzKcGEv0sEzj4q5XRIr8oNiXi74mf > 8CQ1QsFv6tlMHysLk/3Tj53AwscZ59xnovjH5lUJqGDi8v6uIojhCOAwzG5UBQF0 > JHq6Nd295a3Qp9XTj0WCyDJ6gHyDlzNMivI/dJzkaHOSeyML/hSfYSKKEL1vaOOO > OECSLWqCWiXztOCNCbHvT5YINSmzqV1hdqoPEdSQyLlVbeHrK6vrZVAFpoqoxOOp > ZaliFI6FTZkyiz3KE6pUjMR6PSiiTwK5GW/xhiI2ky5tcBgv4y8ZHXDiTOmchFt4 > M5Rksa1BFd+fVbV0tn6m > =u/HP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org > >