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Jason,

On 10/28/14 3:06 PM, Jason Ricles wrote:
> Chris, foo has to run as a daemon outside of tomcat. It will be
> interacting with low level drivers through jni.

While interesting, it's not terribly relevant.

> I was looking at trying to do that with making a client endpoint
> in my daemon but i was having trouble getting it to connect to the 
> websocket server.

Maybe you should start there: get your foo daemon talking to your web
application via Websocket and I think you'll learn a lot about
Websocket in general and probably end up with a better webapp to boot.

Thanks,
- -chris

> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Christopher Schultz < 
> ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> 
> Jason,
> 
> On 10/28/14 9:06 AM, Jason Ricles wrote:
>>>> Ok so here is the problem I have been spinning my wheels on
>>>> for day let me just lay it out.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a daemon written in java running lets call it foo for 
>>>> simpleness on a linux machine that has the tomcat server
>>>> running. On the tomcat server is a WAR file for a webapp
>>>> called bar. In that webapp is a webpage with JavaScript
>>>> websocket communication that connects to a websocket server
>>>> that is also a part of the WAR file. So I have a webpage and
>>>> a websocket server communicating with each other.
>>>> 
>>>> I want the foo daemon and the websocket server on bar (web 
>>>> application) to be able to communicate with each other. Is
>>>> there any way outside of sockets to have foo and the
>>>> websocket server on bar do this?
> 
> Dumb question: why can't foo just be a Websocket client? Make a
> ws:// connection to your web application in Tomcat and then
> two-way communication is possible. Take whatever values from either
> side and push them over the wire.
> 
> Use JSON or something dirt-simple as your data encapsulation
> language: it's standard, well-understood, and has parsers and
> serializers readily available for many different languages. It's
> also pretty much backward- and forward-compatible since everything
> is pretty much a named value map, so you can add/subtract fields at
> will without having to rewrite the communication protocol or do a
> lot of extra work in either the client or the server.
> 
> -chris
> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Martin Grigorov 
>>>> <martin.grigo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Jose MarĂ­a Zaragoza 
>>>>> <demablo...@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2014-10-28 13:44 GMT+01:00 Jason Ricles 
>>>>>> <jgr...@alum.lehigh.edu>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can not use hazelcast due to regulations I have to
>>>>>>> abide by, is where
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> other built in way besides sockets that will allow me
>>>>>>> to share data
>>>>>> between
>>>>>>> the two processes?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You could use an embedded ( or not ) messaging broker (
>>>>>> like ActiveMQ ) . Or any kind of in-memory database
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> But this will be again socket based communication.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let's start from the beginning: What is your use case ?
>>>>> What value will have a deserialized session in the second
>>>>> process ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Martin Grigorov <
>>>>>> martin.grigo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In this case you will have to share the data between
>>>>>>>> the processes. A simple and easy solution would be to
>>>>>>>> use http://hazelcast.com/,
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jason Ricles <
>>>>> jgr...@alum.lehigh.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> it is external as in it is running in a daemon on a
>>>>>>>>> linux machine
>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> tomcat server is also running.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Johan Compagner <
>>>>>> jcompag...@servoy.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to be able to access my sessions
>>>>>>>>>>> from an external
>>>>>> java
>>>>>>>>>> class,
>>>>>>>>>>> however each time I do sessionList.getsize() it
>>>>>>>>>>> keeps coming
>>>>>> back as
>>>>>>>> 0,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> there is an active sessions. Is there any way I
>>>>>>>>>>> can access the
>>>>>> active
>>>>>>>>>>> sessions in tomcat from an external java
>>>>>>>>>>> class?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What is an external java class? Is it in the same
>>>>>>>>>> class loader?
>>>>> so
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> just part of the webapplication? then the above 
>>>>>>>>>> approach should work fine
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -- Johan Compagner Servoy
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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