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Jeffrey,

On 4/4/14, 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Janner wrote:
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Janner
>> [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014
>> 12:04 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: AW: AW:
>> tomcat-connectors-1.2.39-windows-x86_64-iis does not work
>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Schultz
>>> [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: Friday, April 04,
>>> 2014 10:23 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: AW: AW:
>>> tomcat-connectors-1.2.39-windows-x86_64-iis does not work
>>> 
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>>> Jeffrey,
>>> 
>>> On 4/4/14, 10:50 AM, Jeffrey Janner wrote:
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: André Warnier
>>>>> [mailto:aw@ice-
>>> sa.com]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 5:27 PM To: Tomcat Users
>>>>> List Subject: Re: AW: AW: 
>>>>> tomcat-connectors-1.2.39-windows-x86_64-iis does not work
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christopher Schultz wrote:
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>>>>>> André,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/3/14, 3:34 PM, André Warnier wrote:
>>>>>>> Alten, Jessica-Aileen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: André
>>>>>>>>> Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Gesendet:
>>>>>>>>> Donnerstag, 3. April 2014 15:36 An: Tomcat Users
>>>>>>>>> List Betreff: Re: AW: 
>>>>>>>>> tomcat-connectors-1.2.39-windows-x86_64-iis does
>>>>>>>>> not work
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alten, Jessica-Aileen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> A bit guessing here :
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You have :
>>>>>>>>>>>> worker.ajp13w.host=localhost
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> jk_open_socket::jk_connect.c (735): connect
>>>>>>>>>>>> to 0.0.0.0:8009
>>>>>>>>> failed
>>>>>>>>>>>> (errno=49)
>>>>>>>>>>> is "localhost" == 0.0.0.0  ?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> From the point of view of mod_jk/isapi, should
>>>>>>>>>>> it not be
>>>>>>>>> "127.0.0.1" ?
>>>>>>>>>> Your answer points to the right direction.
>>>>>>>>>> 0.0.0.0 means: any configured IPv4-Address on
>>>>>>>>>> this computer, see
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://serverfault.com/questions/78048/whats-the-difference-
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
betwee
>>>>>>>>>> n-
>>>>>> ip
>>>>>>>>>> -addre ss-0-0-0-0-and-127-0-0-1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In principle this is ok at first. The Ajp13
>>>>>>>>>> Connector was configured in server.xml to listen
>>>>>>>>>> at any IPv4 address on
>> port
>>>>>>>>>> 8009 - which is the default setting. But the
>>>>>>>>>> connector can't find any suitable
>>>>>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>>> The problem is: The new Tomcat-Connector can't
>>>>>>>>>> parse "worker.ajp13w.host=localhost", instead
>>>>>>>>>> localhost must be
>>>>> replaced
>>>>>>>>>> with "127.0.0.1", this works!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In my eyes this is a big fat bug, because most
>>>>>>>>>> documentation on workers use "localhost".
>>>>>>>>>> localhost is actually the default for
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> "host" connection directive.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The new worker directive "prefer_ipv6" doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> change this behavior.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Can you please really check this ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Open a command window on that server, and do "ping
>>>>>>>>> localhost".
>>> It
>>>>>>>>> should tell you what it understands by "localhost".
>>>>>>>>> Copy and paste the result here :
>>>>>>>> ping localhost
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ping wird ausgeführt für xyz.uv.local [127.0.0.1] mit
>>>>>>>> 32 Bytes Daten: Antwort von 127.0.0.1: Bytes=32
>>>>>>>> Zeit<1ms TTL=128 Antwort von 127.0.0.1: Bytes=32
>>>>>>>> Zeit<1ms TTL=128
>> Antwort
>>>>>>>> von 127.0.0.1: Bytes=32 Zeit<1ms TTL=128 Antwort von
>>>>>>>> 127.0.0.1: Bytes=32 Zeit<1ms TTL=128
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ping-Statistik für 127.0.0.1: Pakete: Gesendet = 4,
>>>>>>>> Empfangen =
>>> 4,
>>>>>>>> Verloren = 0 (0% Verlust), Ca. Zeitangaben in
>>>>>>>> Millisek.:
>> Minimum
>>> =
>>>>>>>> 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Mittelwert = 0ms
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That /is/ bizarre.  As far as I know, to resolve
>>>>>>> hostnames in
>> its
>>>>>>> configuration, mod_jk/isapi is using the OS's resolver
>>>>>>> library,
>>> the
>>>>>>> same as the one "ping" should be using. On the other
>>>>>>> hand, you say that if you have
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> worker.ajp13w.host=localhost
>>>>>>> it doesn't work (mod_jk cannot connect to tomcat), but
>>>>>>> when you change this to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> worker.ajp13w.host=127.0.0.1
>>>>>>> then it works fine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok, another check in a command window (and I assume
>>>>>>> that you
>> open
>>>>>>> this command window *on the server itself* where mod_jk
>>>>>>> and Tomcat are running, right ?)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> test :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1) telnet localhost 8009
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2) telnet 127.0.0.1 8009
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any difference between these 2 cases ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If not, then indeed it looks like a
>>>>>>> mod_jk/isapi_redirect 1.2.39 problem.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In any case, you cannot "connect to" 0.0.0.0, as this
>>>>>>> log line would suggest :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> jk_open_socket::jk_connect.c (735): connect
>>>>>>>>>>>> to 0.0.0.0:8009
>>>>>>>>> failed
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could this be an interaction between IPv4 and IPv6? Try:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> C:> nslookup localhost
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You might get only 127.0.0.1 or you might also get ::
>>>>>> (or something equivalent). I'm not sure why it wasn't
>>>>>> happening with earlier versions of mod_jk (which?).
>>>>>> 
>>>>> (versions : her first post mentioned the versions she was 
>>>>> comparing)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I previously asked Jessica-Aileen to do a "ping localhost"
>>>>> on the machine, see results above.  It definitiely pings
>>>>> 127.0.0.1 .. (assuming it was done on the same machine)
>>>>> 
>>>>> And I don't think that nslookup uses the local resolver.
>>>>> When I'm doing that on my Windows laptop, for "localhost"
>>>>> it responds "not found" (in many more German words)
>>>>> 
>>>>> C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\aw>nslookup localhost
>>>>> Server: fire-see.localdomain Address:  192.168.245.253
>>>>> 
>>>>> *** localhost wurde von fire-see.localdomain nicht
>>>>> gefunden: Non- existent domain
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the other hand, it does this (spot the difference..):
>>>>> 
>>>>> C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\aw>nslookup localhost.
>>>>> Server: fire-see.localdomain Address:  192.168.245.253
>>>>> 
>>>>> Name:    localhost Address:  127.0.0.1
>>>>> 
>>>>> (But that of course could be the "localhost" of my DNS
>>>>> server, since it happens to be a Linux box running dnsmasq,
>>>>> and it has
>> that
>>>>> name
>>> in
>>>>> it's own hosts file.)
>>>>> 
>>>> This result is understandable, as the nslookup tool is a DNS 
>>>> resolver tool.  It's designed to query the DNS system
>>>> directly, avoiding the systems resolver and any caching. Not
>>>> exactly sure why it resolves "localhost.", but adding the
>>>> final period tells it not to append the default domain.  In
>>>> other words, localhost. Is a top-
>> level domain.
>>>> Perhaps there is a special case built into the DNS system for
>>>> that. The difference here is that the resolver is going to
>>>> search DNS and the local hosts table, usually with the local
>>>> hosts table (/etc/hosts in *nix) taking precedence. I've not
>>>> followed the complete thread,
>>> but
>>>> if the server is a *nix implementation, the better diag tool
>>>> might be dig. And yes, I would not expect the address 0.0.0.0
>>>> on a client to connect to the localhost.  That is a special
>>>> case address
>> meaning
>>>> "local network". If anything, it would be sending packets out
>>>> the NIC card, not via loopback.
>>> 
>>> 0.0.0.0 means "all IPv4 interfaces available" and only applies
>>> for binding a server socket. You can never connect to "0.0.0.0"
>>> as a client.
>>> 
>> Chris - It actually has a different meaning based on use.  For
>> binding to a socket in the local IP stack, it means what you
>> say. In the routing table, it means the default route.  In 
>> firewalls/routers, it probably means something completely
>> different. When used as a destination address, it means what I
>> said.  How the IP stack/hardware deals with it is dependent on
>> the implementation. The RFCs specify that it should be treated
>> the same as the broadcast address, but local network only, and
>> not routable.  That may be for received packets only, as I've
>> seen other references that it should never be used on-the-wire,
>> unless as the source address in protocols like DHCP. In any
>> event, definitely not expect the 0.0.0.0. address to get any 
>> response, either local host or otherwise. For the OP's specific
>> problem, s/he need to see how "localhost" is resolving.  Most
>> systems define it in the local "hosts" file, either /etc/hosts
>> (*nix) or c:\Windows\system32\etc\hosts.  Not sure for other 
>> systems. Jeff
> 
> Make that C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.
> 
> I did a test and it appeared that ping didn't rely on the entry
> being there, but it could have been a cached result.

Way back in the day when I had the misfortune to use Windows regularly
for stuff like this, I seem to recall that almost nothing short of a
reboot would cause the "hosts" file to be re-read.

- -chris
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