Good Afternoon Dan

If your configuration mirrors everything about the clients environment (HW/SW JVM / OS / Memory /TCP/IP Stack/ Diskspace /installed utilities)environment (when I say everything I mean right to the letter grade version of JVM)
with the only EXCEPTION you are not running the balancer
AND you have run every burn-in and smoke test without so much as a hiccup with DEBUG LOGGING turned on
then the delta IS THE BALANCER there can be NO OTHER REASON

Talk to the vendor who sold them the balancer and ask their assistance .make sure you go straight to the engineers and write EVERYTHING down they say to do
and repreat it back to them
Install a fresh copy of the balancer which the company states is supported (dont get trapped by we only support version 1B and not 1A)

If for whatever reason the vendor isnt responsive (no answer in 48 hours) then notify the client that the balancer as 'unsupported' and must be backed out of the client's env As a very necessary cya Get your managers to rework any documentation to specifically exclude items installed by foreign vendors
(A Foreign Vendor is anyone but yourself)

My undertstanding of balancer is that they balance the webapp software OR they are HW based in which case they can balance multiple hosts I know someone that knows balancers quite well if you provide me the vendor name offline I'll ask him tommorrow

Good Luck/Viel Gluck
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Golob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <users@tomcat.apache.org>; "'Martin Gainty'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: Problem with Tomcat Unexpectedly Shutting Down


Hello Martin,

The fact is our application is the only one running under tomcat. However,
again, it runs fine absolutely everywhere else.  As for the load balancer,
the problem is that the client specifically paid for this feature and by
shutting it off we will have to admit failure and refund the money.  So,
this is kind of an option that the administration will not agree with, as
you can probably imagine.

To be honest, I too think that this is a problem with the load balancer, but
I have no way to prove it.  Is there something we need to do for the load
balancer to work properly? More importantly, is there a way to determine if
in fact the load balancer is causing the problem?  My lack of knowledge of
Tomcat is one thing, but I have absolutely no knowledge of how a load
balancer works at all.  The most interesting bit, the load balancer is
active, but only on one machine ... meaning, it isn't actually balancing
anything.

However, the second installation that also went down does not have load
balancing running on it.  This doesn't help my argument with the
administration that this is truly a load balancing issue.  Please keep in
mind that we have dozens of other installations running without any
problems.

Thanks for the response, it is greatly appreciated.
Dan





-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 3:09 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Problem with Tomcat Unexpectedly Shutting Down

If you Start each webapp independently and note behaviour of the Tomcat
engine can you determine which webapp is causing this malady?
Specifically if you unload your balancer / restart Tomcat /does Tomcat
Engine shutdown unexpectedly?
Thanks,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Golob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:03 AM
Subject: Problem with Tomcat Unexpectedly Shutting Down


Hello Everyone,

This is a repost of a prior error which was never solved.

We are having a strange Tomcat issue on one of our client's machines. The
problem is that it shuts down randomly.  There is nothing in the Tomcat
Log
to indicate why this is occurring, and the Windows Event Manager simply
states that the process "shut down unexpectedly".  We have tried
recreating
this problem in-house, but have absolutely no luck.

We are running tomcat 5.0.27 and Java 1.4.2_06.  The machine that this is
installed on is Windows 2003 with all the latest updates.  Tomcat is
running
in standalone mode, meaning without Apache. One other thing to note, this
installation of tomcat is using Load balancing.

If anyone can point me in a direction of where to look, it would be very
helpful.  I have scoured the internet and newsgroups but can't find a
similar problem anywhere.

Recently, another installation of ours shut down with the exact same
problem.  We have avoided reinstalling everything because we weren't
convinced that this would solve anything.  During our research we came up
with a great number of leads, but none of them seemed to work. Please, if you have any information as to how to solve this problem, or even where to
look for more information it would be most helpful.  We are primarily
developers with very little knowledge of Tomcat as a whole, so we are
struggling to find a solution.

Thanks in advance
Dan







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