On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 09:32:05PM -0400, Rossen Stoyanchev wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
> 
> > It's probably worth asking what "full-fledged enterprise applications"
> > means.  I'm not aware of any specification with that title.
> 
> Indeed there is no such specification. The point is that Java enterprise
> development is not always defined nor does it have to be defined by specs.
> The spec development process is tricky at best. You have to do it not too
> early (ahead of experience) and not too late either.
> 
> Open source is actually in a much better position to evolve continuously by
> capturing developer feedback and providing results quickly. So certainly
> don't discount just because it's not a spec.

I wasn't discounting Spring; I use it and like it.  I was discounting
empty phrases like "full-fledged enterprise application" which could
mean anything, or nothing.  When someone offers me support for
"full-fledged enterprise applications" I do not know what facilities
and APIs I can rely on; when someone offers me JEE 6 or Spring 3.2 or
something else with a definition, I do.

-- 
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer   mw...@iupui.edu
Machines should not be friendly.  Machines should be obedient.

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