On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:39 AM, André Warnier <a...@ice-sa.com> wrote:
> Mark H. Wood wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:32:22PM -0500, Daniel Mikusa wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Vye <v...@vye.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have been unsuccessfully trying to remove the date from catalina’s
>>>> log file name. My ultimate goal is to logrotate the file, which is
>>>> best done when the file name is static.
>>>
>>> I’m curious, why are you trying to do this?  The log files are being
>>> rotated out-of-the-box.  They rotate by date, hence why the date is part of
>>> the name.  Why do you need to rotate them with some other tool?  What
>>> doesn’t work about the out-of-the-box configuration?
>>
>>
>> I agree.  logrotate is a very nice crutch for use when the application
>> doesn't rotate its own logs, but it is better to use the application's
>> rotation code when it exists, since the application (with full
>> knowledge of its internal state) can do this more safely and
>> efficiently than any external tool.
>>
>> Cleaning up old log files is easily done with a simple cron job, if
>> the application does not trim old files.  That operation can be done
>> just as well externally as internally.
>>
>
> A dissenting voice :
> As a sysadmin in charge of many systems and different applications, it is
> very nice to be able to use the *same* tool, same logic, same frequency,
> same archiving logic, same configuration files etc. for handling the logs of
> all applications.  One does not really have time to investigate the details
> of the individual logic and configuration of logging for each application,
> and write scripts to bring the errant ones back in line with the rest.
>
> In that sense - and I repeat, in that sense - Tomcat's standard logging
> logic differs from most of the rest, and this is a pain.
>
> I am not discussing the fact that for developers of Tomcat-based
> applications, the current  out-of-the-box logging may be ideal and allow for
> all the control they want.
> But from a non-java, non-Tomcat specialist sysadmin point of view, it is
> definitely not ideal.
>
>
>
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André,

You expressed the very reason I was trying to turn off log rotation in
Tomcat. I didn't want to write custom log handling for those specific
logs. That's not possible with the version I'm using, but I agree with
you coming from a systems perspective.

-- 
-Vye

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