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From: Ognjen Blagojevic
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Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:19 AM
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Subject: Re: Cannot connect from outside using Tomcat
7/APR/SSL
on AWS Windows system

Jeffrey,

On 19.1.2014 6:03, Christopher Schultz wrote:
<Connector address="10.4.1.20" port="443"
maxHttpHeaderSize="8192"
Could it be as simple as having set the "address"
attribute?
+1

BTW, setting attribute preverIPv4Stack=true on server side
doesn't mean anything for the client. The client will try
to connect with
the
protocol he prefers. The client may also fall back to
other
protocol (e.g. if IPv6 connection fails several times, try
with
IPv4).
I see that access log is not configured. Is there a reason
for
that?
Without access log you can't tell if the remote request
reaches
Tomcat or not. So, for start, I suggest you configure
access log for Tomcat 7 and report back if something is
logged
after
you
try
to connect from the remote host. Note that Tomcat may
postpone writes
to
the log files, so make sure you stop Tomcat before you
check
your
logs.
If there is no record of remote requests in Tomcat 7
access
logs,
I
suggest you analyze what is going on with Wireshark or
some
other
packet analyzer. You can that see if the client:

1. tries to connect using IPv6 or IPv4, 2. is falling
back,
3.
which exactly IPv4/v6 adress does it use, 4. is TCP three-
way
handshake successfull.

Only when you confirm that three-way handshake is
succsessful
and
that the destionation IP adress is IPv4 "10.4.1.20", you
may say
that
the request should have reached Tomcat.

-Ognjen
Added the access log.  Absolutely 0 entries from any
address
that
is
not the local system.
Can you configure your Tomcat-6 to run under your Java-7 ?
(in the principle, I think that this should work; I don't
know about the practice) This would help determine if the
difference
resides in the Java or the Tomcat.

Tried it a different way.  Since TC7 is supposed to support
Java
1.6,
switched my TC7 to use the existing Java6.
No luck.
Noticed that 7.0.47 is old now.  Going to try 7.0.50.

Did you try a simple :

telnet 10.4.1.20 <Tomcat listen port>

(just to see if 'anything' from outside can connect to your
AWS/Tomcat
port)

Nope, just timeouts.
If the connection is not rejected right away with a "connection
refused by host", it normally means that a LISTEN port is opened
on
that port.
Taken "strictly by the book" and according to your presumed
accurate description of the symptoms above,

A timeout suggests to me that the connection request packet (SYN
?)
is received and accepted by the server, but that the return
packet which should tell the client so (ACK ?), never makes it
back to
the
client.
Hence the client waits, until the timeout kicks in.

Are you sure that this server has a route back to the client ?

Or, are you sure that your descriptions so far are really
accurate
?
For example, is it really the same server on which you can make
this succeed/fail just by switching the Java and/or Tomcat
version,
no other changes involved ?
(Also see Konstantin's question about the apparent discrepancy
between the netstat output and your server.xml).

Yep, just stopping one service and starting the other.  It's
something weird with the server, since an identical Tomcat 6
install wouldn't work with a copied and stripped configuration.
I'm double- checking everything, but I think the server's tied the
outside IP to the wrong internal IP.  Trying to come up with a way
to check that.
Note, the connectors and hosts my original posted server.xml are
taken from my original install, but that also has another pair of
connectors (different IPv4 address) and some hosts that should
only
respond on that address, though they are all under one
service/engine
combo.  The troublesome address connectors and hosts are commented
out in the original and the original restarted before I try to
start the newer setups.
Suggestion: read Part III of the article which I mentioned earlier
(http://www.excelsior-usa.com/articles/tomcat-amazon-ec2-
basic.html),
particularly the section "Assigning an Elastic IP Address".

It suggests that there is a lot more going on with AWS instances
than
merely tying up a socket to an IP address.  I don't know really,
but maybe it is something in that area which stymies your
attempts..
In the meantime, I'll go back to your quoted server.xml (the
<Connector> entries), and see if yomething there catches my
imagination.
What I am thinking of, is some edge case between the AWS IP-
binding
logic, and APR socket configuration.  After all, it is quite
possible
that not all such cases would have been thoroughly tested, and you
may have stumbled inadvertently on one such.

Forgot to mention that I am using EIP for all mappings.  I'm not
depending on "magic" from AWS.
Also, I'm working under Windows, but the basics are the same.

Unfortunately, it looks like I am a bit (much) out of my depth there.
I don't know AWS at all, and the results of the DNS lookups that I'm
doing on the IP and hostnames you quoted are increasing my
confusion..
Looks like something you'll have to work out by yourself.
My last suggestion would be to minimise your configuration (single
IP,
single HTTP port, single Host, default page) and start from there.

Actually, that is what I was trying to do, minimize the configuration.
Let's see if I can do a line drawing:
qwdemo.polydyne.com (DNS 96.127.35.106) --> AWS firewall (allow 80/443
from anywhere) --> EIP mapping (aka NAT) --> server (10.4.1.20) It
really should be that simple of a setup.
Is there any way to log the internal IP a request comes in on?  I
wonder if the mapping is correct?


I'm still out of my depth (this time for different reasons), but one page you might want to at least have a look at, to check if it's applicable here : http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/http.html#Proxy%20Support

But it should not be applicable, as apparently the AWS stuff is what you say, just a NAT mechanism. Tomcat should not even be aware that its real IP is not 10.4.1.20.

I don't get what's wrong.

More interesting stuff:
Added an Access Log Valve with the pattern '%A %h %l %u %t "%r" %s %b.
There are two DNS entries for the <host>, each resolving to different external 
IPs for the server. Each is mapped to a different internal IP address both on the 
same network interface. However the access log shows queries to either are hitting 
the Primary IP for the network interface.  That is, no matter which hostname I use, 
the first column is always 10.4.1.20.
Is this some limitation of the access log valve, i.e. it is just reporting the 
first IP address in the list for the network interface?

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