Yes I have done various things to trace. The problem is DB connections. I 
believe that the serialized versions of things went nuts trying to refresh. 
Once serialization is off, the problem is gone.

Each of the four applications initializes using one connection. But re-loading 
through serialization appears to do weir things.

So far things work great with it stopped.

   <Manager pathname="" />

Has calmed the waters.

Thanks to Mark for once again steering me in the right direction.




On Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:37 PM, Christopher Schultz 
<ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
 
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Ray,


On 12/26/13, 12:14 PM, Ray Holme wrote:
> It appears new revisions of tomcat (current for sure) are much
> more sensitive to keeping serialized data BETWEEN restarts. I have
> to wait at least 30 minutes to properly restart my applications.

30 minutes to shut-down or 30 minutes to start-up?

Have you tried to take a few thread dumps to find out what's going on?

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