> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob DeRemer [mailto:bob.dere...@thingworx.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:56 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RE: solution - RE: how to access HTTP response from jsr-356
> ServerEndpointConfig.Configurator.modifyHandshake?
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:12 AM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: Re: solution - RE: how to access HTTP response from jsr-356
> > ServerEndpointConfig.Configurator.modifyHandshake?
> >
> > Bob DeRemer wrote:
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Bob DeRemer [mailto:bob.dere...@thingworx.com]
> > >> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:30 PM
> > >> To: Tomcat Users List
> > >> Subject: RE: how to access HTTP response from jsr-356
> > >> ServerEndpointConfig.Configurator.modifyHandshake?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Niki Dokovski [mailto:nick...@gmail.com]
> > >>> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:11 PM
> > >>> To: Tomcat Users List
> > >>> Subject: Re: how to access HTTP response from jsr-356
> > >>> ServerEndpointConfig.Configurator.modifyHandshake?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Bob DeRemer
> > >>> <bob.dere...@thingworx.com>wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>  Thanks for the direction on using the respective Client/Server
> > >>>> EndpointConfig.Configurator plumbing to do a pre-connection AUTH.
> > >>>> Unfortunately, I'm stuck on the server side when trying to
> > >>>> actually modify the HTTP response result code from within the
> Configurator.
> > >>>> It doesn't appear that the HandshakeResponse [or anything else
> > >>>> that I could see] provides access to modify the actual HTTP
> > >>>> response - setting it to
> > >>> 403 if
> > >>>> the AUTH fails.    In fact, from looking at the UpgradeUtil.doUpgrade, 
> > >>>> it
> > >>>> seems that the decision to upgrade has already been made by the
> > >>>> time the modifyHandshake override gets called.
> > >>>>
> > >>> Yes the decision is'already made at that point. In this version of
> > >>> the spec and current implementation, the only place to actully
> > >>> provide different status code (aka 403) is when checkOrigin returns 
> > >>> false.
> > >>> http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/api/javax/websocket/server/ServerE
> > >>> nd
> > >>> po
> > >>> intC
> > >>> onfig.Configurator.html#checkOrigin(java.lang.String)
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't know wether this works in your case, but for sure the next
> > >>> spec revision could try to provide more application control in
> > >> "modifyHandshake"
> > >> checkOrigin would work if there was some way to gain access to the
> > >> client supplied headers.  Is there any way for my checkOrigin
> > >> method to get access to the calling request and associated HTTP
> > >> headers?  If not, then I'm not sure how to perform a pre-connected
> > >> AUTH check based
> > on the current implementation.
> > >>
> > >> if there are any other suggestions, please LMK; meanwhile, I'll
> > >> keep digging to see if there's another solution.
> > >>
> > >> Thx,bob
> > >>
> > >
> > > After looking at the options available and going through the
> > > websocket
> > protocol specification again, I've found a better solution for
> > authenticating using a JSR-356 implementation than the original
> > concept of using ServerEndpointConfig.Configurator.modifyHandshake.
> > The new approach still uses custom Client and Server
> > EndpointConfig/Configurator instances to pass security information
> > during the handshake, but instead of rejecting the handshake, it's
> > cleaner to grab the security information in the OnOpen (from the
> > ServerEndpointConfig) of the actual endpoint.  At this point, simply
> > perform whatever AAA you wish - calling close with an appropriate
> CloseReason if AAA fails.
> > >
> > > With regard to DOS and opening websocket connections:
> > >
> > > The websocket protocol already prohibits multiple clients from being
> > > in the
> > connecting/handshake phase at once, which already helps reduce the DOS
> > surface area.  In addition, the client and/or server side
> > implementations can add additional logic to prohibit the number of
> > concurrent connections from the same client endpoint based on
> configuration.
> > >
> > > And, yes, once I get it done and tested, I'll write this up.
> > >
> >
> > Hi.
> > I have been watching this a bit from the outside, and I am neither a
> > Java nor a Tomcat nor a websocket expert.
> > But I am wondering a bit if we are not here missing the forest for the
> > trees, in the following sense :
> > If I understand correctly the issue at hand, it would be about
> > 1) preventing DoS attacks by "protecting" the websocket interface by a
> > prior AAA phase
> > 2) how to do this AAA phase
> >
> > When I read through the JSR-356, it looks to me more concerned about
> > what happens while the websocket connection is actually open, than
> > about what precedes it.
> > And when I read the websocket RFC-6455, it seems to me that at least
> > in terms of the intent, the websocket connection is established - from
> > the server point of view - when the server returns a 101 response
> > status. And anything before that is part of the "initial handshake",
> > which as far as I understand it is purely HTTP and includes anything to do 
> > with
> AAA.
> >
> > See RFC-6455 :
> >
> > 4.  Opening Handshake
> > 4.1.  Client Requirements
> > ...
> >     12.  The request MAY include any other header fields, for example,
> >          cookies [RFC6265] and/or authentication-related header fields
> >          such as the |Authorization| header field [RFC2616], which are
> >          processed according to documents that define them.
> >
> >     Once the client's opening handshake has been sent, the client MUST
> >     wait for a response from the server before sending any further data.
> >     The client MUST validate the server's response as follows:
> >
> >     1.  If the status code received from the server is not 101, the
> >         client handles the response per HTTP [RFC2616] procedures.  In
> >         particular, the client might perform authentication if it
> >         receives a 401 status code; the server might redirect the client
> >         using a 3xx status code (but clients are not required to follow
> >         them), etc.  Otherwise, proceed as follows.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > In JSR-356, there is similarly :
> >
> > 8.1 Authentication of Websockets
> > This specification does not define a mechanism by which websockets
> > themselves can be authenticated.  Rather, by building on the servlet
> > defined security mechanism, a websocket that requires authentication
> > must rely on the opening handshake request that seeks to initiate a
> > connection to be previously authenticated. Typically, this will be
> > performed by a Http authentication (perhaps basic or form-based) in
> > the web application containing the websocket prior to the opening handshake
> to the websocket.
> >
> > In other words, I am a bit confused as to why there would need to be a
> > need for any websocket application to be able to either access the
> > client-sent authentication headers, cookies etc.., or why it should be
> > possible to the websocket application to trigger the sending of a HTTP 4xx
> response.
> >
> > This should all already have happened at the initial HTTP handshake
> > phase, and should not be a concern for the websocket interface itself.
> > It may be nice for the websocket application later on to have read
> > access to the (or some) headers sent by the client during the initial
> > handshake, but this does not look like a requirement.
> >
> > Or am I in turn missing something ?
> >
> 
> Hi Andre,
> 
> I see what you mean and believe using an HTTP-based auth approach may work
> in some scenarios.  I'm not sure if this would work in one of our primary
> scenarios, which is dealing with many real-world devices that do not have a 
> UI,
> so basic/form authentication isn't an option.  That said, I will have to see 
> if I can
> use a standard Filter approach in front of our websocket endpoints.  If I can
> programmatically add an auth filter, then I may be able to perform the auth
> check in the same manner as we do for our stand HTTP-based REST api.
> 
> Thx, bob

It appears I can call addFilter dynamically when my webapp starts up and 
front-end the websocket endpoint with a Filter - processing the initial HTTP 
request completely before any websocket communication is involved

Thanks for causing me to pull up from the weeds and look at this from another 
angle!

-bob

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