> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgai...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 7:35 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RE: SSL Best Practices
>
>
> 1)Have you ever tried to coerce IE to accept a self-signed cert 2)if
> you purchase a pfx with a self-signed certificate sold to you by
> chris_is_a_hacker.com for 1.00 then who do you think can break it

I use self-signed certificates from my own CA for testing.

>
> The cert allows browser to contact the sites SSL connector..by
> presenting credentials usually from a Name Server such as ADS or LDAP
>

Most certificates are not backed by a name server.  The existence of the 
certificate
is deemed sufficient to provide proof of identity (if issued by a trusted 3rd 
party,
such as Verisign).

> the real work involves breaking the algorithm implemented by the key
>
> in order  to establish Key exchange on a SSLv2 transport
>

The SSLv2 transport is sufficiently broken (or weak) that most SSL reliant 
applications
disable it (or recommend in sufficiently strong terms that users disable it).

> I sincerely doubt even chris_is_a-hacker can break any of the RSA
> algorithms implemented by the key inside a versign.pfx

If I am chris_is_a-hacker, I do not need to break anything, because by
providing a PFX file (rather than by submitting a certificate request
and having a certificate issued directly to me), I have a copy of the private
key, and I can impersonate the user or website at will, depending on the kind
of certificate(s) included in the pfx file.

And as for breaking the key algorithm, I do not have to do that all (even if I 
did
the right steps in having a certificate properly issued).  There are a number of
weaknesses in the SSL protocol itself that I can attack any of those to inject
a man-in-the-middle attack.

(In any case, I believe we have moved significantly off topic in this 
discussion.)

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