> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:06 PM > To: 'Tomcat Users List' > Subject: RE: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:02 AM > > To: Tomcat Users List > > Subject: Re: [Seriously OT] Help in diagnosing server > unresponsiveness > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > Jeffrey, > > > > On 2/6/13 10:26 AM, Jeffrey Janner wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Schultz > > >> [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, > > >> 2013 4:59 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [Seriously OT] > Help > > >> in diagnosing server unresponsiveness > > >> > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >> > > >> IMO, developer performance trumps runtime performance most of the > > >> time. So, if you can create a more maintainable system in less > time > > >> by using EJB (or whatever), then you go ahead and do it: > > >> servers are cheap, while developer time is expensive. > > >> > > >> - -chris > > > > > > Chris, I'd like to differ with you on this last point. As someone > > > who's been a developer, support person, and admin, I've got a > pretty > > > good perspective on this subject. While servers may be cheap, they > > > will never be cheap enough to overcome poor programming practices. > > > I've worked with systems so poorly designed that we couldn't > > > purchase a system big enough to run the software adequately, once > > > you got > > above > > > a handful of users. Yes, it's gotten to the point where systems are > > > much cheaper than they used to be, while developer salaries are > only > > > increasing (supposedly), so wasting time on some minor performance > > > improvement may not be cost-effective. However, when you aggregate > > the > > > time that hundreds of users spend waiting on a response from a > > > poorly designed, unresponsive system, I think you'll find that it > > > trumps the cost of having the developer spending a few extra > minutes > > > to "get it right the first time". > > > > How about "servers are a lot cheaper than competent software > > developers"? ;) > > > > - -chris > +1 > Can't tell how tired I am of hearing some version of the following: > "I don't care to learn how a library/API is supposed to work, I just > want to use it."
(replying to own post == bad form) Actually, that line usually begins: "I don't have time to...." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
