Hi Martin,
I realized that some of the directories were created with the ec2-user in
some of my previous tries before running daemon.sh. I am deleting all these
dirs/files and see if daemon.sh works now.
Cheers,
Fred
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Fred Janon <fja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions Martin, I'll give them a try in a couple of
> hours, I've got to do something now.
>
> I tried the same daemon script at boot time from init.d and I get the same
> issue, it runs under root. Does that mean that my setting for the tomcat
> user for jsvc is not working? I assumed that jsvc would take that identity
> to do everything, including creating the dirs and files.
>
> Thanks
>
> Fred
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Martin Gainty <mgai...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> save yourself a ton of permission-errors grief
>>
>> login tomcat
>> mkdir /datadisk1/tomcat/conf/Catalina/localhost
>> BTW when you do a
>> ls -al /datadisk1/tomcat/conf/Catalina/localhost
>> you should have god rights rwd pretty much everything
>>
>> sudo is tricky because you'll need to add tomcat user to run the tomcat
>> daemon(sh) to
>>
>> /etc/sudoers
>>
>> but then you'll only have permission to run daemon(.sh)
>> access to temp, work and log folders have not been granted
>>
>>
>> cd $CATALINA_BASE
>> chown tomcat work
>> chown tomcat logs
>> chown tomcat temp
>>
>> Your clock is 6 hours ahead of me so you will receive this email very
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>>
>>
>> > From: fja...@gmail.com
>> > Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:22:50 +0200
>> > Subject: Re: Issue building the Unix daemon (jsvc) with the "configure"
>> script in Tomcat7
>> > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Jeff,
>> >
>> > I tried both:
>> >
>> > [ec2-user@ip-10-34-89-185 bin]$ ./daemon.sh start
>> > Cannot set group id for user 'tomcat'
>> > Error validating user 'tomcat'
>> >
>> > With sudo, I get the permissions issue. ec2-user is a sudoer.
>> >
>> > sudo ./daemon.sh start
>> >
>> > *SEVERE: Unable to create directory for deployment:
>> > /datadisk1/tomcat/conf/Catalina/localhost*
>> > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:12 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig
>> > deployDirectory
>> > INFO: Deploying web application directory
>> /datadisk1/tomcat/webapps/examples
>> > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:12 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>> > postWorkDirectory
>> > *WARNING: Failed to create work directory
>> > [/datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/examples] for context
>> [/examples]
>> > *
>> > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.jasper.EmbeddedServletOptions <init>
>> > *SEVERE: The scratchDir you specified:
>> > /datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/examples is unusable.*
>> >
>> > I am trying to see the whole command passed to jsvc but I am not fluent
>> in
>> > shell scripts and I can't get to echo it yet.
>> >
>> > Fred
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Jeff MAURY <jeffma...@jeffmaury.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> > > It probably means your current user (ec2-user) has not the rights to
>> run as
>> > > tomcat user.
>> > > Try the same command with sudo in front, if ec2-user is part of the
>> sudoers
>> > >
>> > > Jeff
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Fred Janon <fja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Ah! Thanks Jeff, you are right, thanks. I checked and the OpenJDK
>> > > installed
>> > > > is not the full JDK (??? confusing). I had to install the
>> OpenJDK-dev to
>> > > > get the full JDK.
>> > > >
>> > > > I managed to build the jsvc (yeah!), now I am getting an error after
>> > > > starting tomcat using daemon.sh, it seems that it runs a root, not
>> tomcat
>> > > > as I configured setenv.sh. tomcat cannot create some dirs, reported
>> in
>> > > > catalina-daemon.out.
>> > > >
>> > > > If I launch tomcat without being root, I get this error:
>> > > >
>> > > > [ec2-user@ip-10-34-89-185 bin]$ ./daemon.sh start
>> > > > Cannot set group id for user 'tomcat'
>> > > > Error validating user 'tomcat'
>> > > >
>> > > > Not sure what this means, I have a tomcat user in the tomcat group.
>> > > >
>> > > > If I launch tomcat using that command:
>> > > >
>> > > > sudo ./daemon.sh start
>> > > >
>> > > > with setenv.sh:
>> > > >
>> > > > export CATALINA_HOME=/datadisk1/tomcat
>> > > > export CATALINA_OPTS="-server -Xms128M -Xmx512M"
>> > > > export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/jre
>> > > > export TOMCAT_USER=tomcat
>> > > >
>> > > > then catalina-daemon.out shows:
>> > > >
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:11 PM
>> org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener
>> > > init
>> > > > SEVERE: An incompatible version 1.1.22 of the APR based Apache
>> Tomcat
>> > > > Native library is installed, while Tomcat requires version 1.1.24
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:11 PM
>> org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener
>> > > init
>> > > > SEVERE: An incompatible version 1.1.22 of the APR based Apache
>> Tomcat
>> > > > Native library is installed, while Tomcat requires version 1.1.24
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:11 PM
>> org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener
>> > > init
>> > > > SEVERE: An incompatible version 1.1.22 of the APR based Apache
>> Tomcat
>> > > > Native library is installed, while Tomcat requires version 1.1.24
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:11 PM
>> org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener
>> > > init
>> > > > SEVERE: An incompatible version 1.1.22 of the APR based Apache
>> Tomcat
>> > > > Native library is installed, while Tomcat requires version 1.1.24
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:11 PM
>> org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener
>> > > init
>> > > > SEVERE: An incompatible version 1.1.22 of the APR based Apache
>> Tomcat
>> > > > Native library is installed, while Tomcat requires version 1.1.24
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:11 PM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol init
>> > > > INFO: Initializing ProtocolHandler ["http-bio-8080"]
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:11 PM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol init
>> > > > INFO: Initializing ProtocolHandler ["ajp-bio-8009"]
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:11 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina load
>> > > > INFO: Initialization processed in 1316 ms
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:12 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService
>> > > > startInternal
>> > > > INFO: Starting service Catalina
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:12 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine
>> > > > startInternal
>> > > > INFO: Starting Servlet Engine: Apache Tomcat/7.0.29
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:12 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig start
>> > > > *SEVERE: Unable to create directory for deployment:
>> > > > /datadisk1/tomcat/conf/Catalina/localhost*
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:12 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig
>> > > > deployDirectory
>> > > > INFO: Deploying web application directory
>> > > > /datadisk1/tomcat/webapps/examples
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:12 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>> > > > postWorkDirectory
>> > > > *WARNING: Failed to create work directory
>> > > > [/datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/examples] for context
>> > > > [/examples]
>> > > > *
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.jasper.EmbeddedServletOptions
>> <init>
>> > > > *SEVERE: The scratchDir you specified:
>> > > > /datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/examples is unusable.*
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig
>> > > > deployDirectory
>> > > > INFO: Deploying web application directory
>> /datadisk1/tomcat/webapps/ROOT
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>> > > > postWorkDirectory
>> > > > WARNING: Failed to create work directory
>> > > > [/datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/_] for context []
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.jasper.EmbeddedServletOptions
>> <init>
>> > > > SEVERE: The scratchDir you specified:
>> > > > /datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/_ is unusable.
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig
>> > > > deployDirectory
>> > > > INFO: Deploying web application directory
>> /datadisk1/tomcat/webapps/docs
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>> > > > postWorkDirectory
>> > > > WARNING: Failed to create work directory
>> > > > [/datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/docs] for context [/docs]
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.jasper.EmbeddedServletOptions
>> <init>
>> > > > SEVERE: The scratchDir you specified:
>> > > > /datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/docs is unusable.
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig
>> > > > deployDirectory
>> > > > INFO: Deploying web application directory
>> > > /datadisk1/tomcat/webapps/manager
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>> > > > postWorkDirectory
>> > > > WARNING: Failed to create work directory
>> > > > [/datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/manager] for context
>> > > [/manager]
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.jasper.EmbeddedServletOptions
>> <init>
>> > > > SEVERE: The scratchDir you specified:
>> > > > /datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/manager is unusable.
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig
>> > > > deployDirectory
>> > > > INFO: Deploying web application directory
>> > > > /datadisk1/tomcat/webapps/host-manager
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>> > > > postWorkDirectory
>> > > > WARNING: Failed to create work directory
>> > > > [/datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/host-manager] for context
>> > > > [/host-manager]
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.jasper.EmbeddedServletOptions
>> <init>
>> > > > SEVERE: The scratchDir you specified:
>> > > > /datadisk1/tomcat/work/Catalina/localhost/host-manager is unusable.
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol start
>> > > > INFO: Starting ProtocolHandler ["http-bio-8080"]
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol start
>> > > > INFO: Starting ProtocolHandler ["ajp-bio-8009"]
>> > > > Aug 24, 2012 1:29:13 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start
>> > > > INFO: Server startup in 1613 ms
>> > > >
>> > > > I am not sure my "export TOMCAT_USER=tomcat" is right, or if I am
>> missing
>> > > > something.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Fred
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Jeff MAURY <
>> jeffma...@jeffmaury.com
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Fred,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > you are getting confused by the term OpenJDK. It comes in two
>> flavor,
>> > > JRE
>> > > > > and JDK. I have some .h files on my Ubuntu server, but not under
>> > > > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk but under
>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards
>> > > > > Jeff
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Fred Janon <fja...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi Jeff,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks, but I read the instructions and requirements for a C
>> compiler
>> > > > an
>> > > > > > the JDK. As shown in my original message there is a JDK
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/*
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > but no "jni_md.h" in the Open JDK. As I said the "jni_md.h"
>> seems to
>> > > be
>> > > > > in
>> > > > > > the Windows JDK, but not in the Linux one.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Fred
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Jeff MAURY <
>> jeffma...@jeffmaury.com
>> > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > You need a JDK to be installed on your machine and it seems
>> you've
>> > > > > only a
>> > > > > > > JRE
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Jeff
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Fred Janon <
>> fja...@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I am trying to build the Unix deamon jsvc in AWS EC2 Linux.
>> I did
>> > > > not
>> > > > > > > > install Tomcat7 that comes with the AWS Linux, I downloaded
>> > > Tomcat7
>> > > > > > from
>> > > > > > > > the Apache Tomcat website, I installed it and ran Tomcat7
>> > > > > successfully.
>> > > > > > > Now
>> > > > > > > > I am trying to build the daemon to run Tomcat7 as a daemon.
>> I get
>> > > > an
>> > > > > > > error
>> > > > > > > > running the "configure" script as indicated in the Tomcat
>> > > > > > documentation.
>> > > > > > > I
>> > > > > > > > did a lot of searching on the web and cannot find a
>> solution to
>> > > > this
>> > > > > > > issue.
>> > > > > > > > I am not fluent in shell scripting, so my understanding of
>> > > > > "configure"
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > > > very limited.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Do I need to regenerate the "configure" script or do I need
>> to
>> > > > modify
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > script?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > The error is:
>> > > > > > > > *checking for JDK os include directory... Cannot find
>> jni_md.h in
>> > > > > > > > /usr/lib/jvm/jre/*
>> > > > > > > > *configure: error: You should retry --with-os-type=SUBDIR*
>> > > > > > > > *
>> > > > > > > > *
>> > > > > > > > It looks like *"jni_md.h"* is part of the Windows JDK, *but
>> it's
>> > > > not
>> > > > > in
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > Linux OpenJDK on CentOS.*
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I don't really understand why the message says
>> "*with-os-type*"
>> > > > where
>> > > > > > it
>> > > > > > > > seems to mean JDK?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > As indicated in the INSTALL.txt below, I am reporting the
>> issue,
>> > > > > hoping
>> > > > > > > > that someone can give me a solution or a patch for the
>> script...
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > "Depending on your JDK layout, configure might fail to find
>> the
>> > > JNI
>> > > > > > > > machine dependant include file (jni_md.h). If that's the
>> case use
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > > > --with-os-type=<subdir> parameter where subdir points to the
>> > > > > directory
>> > > > > > > > within JDK include directory containing jni_md.h file.
>> > > > > > > > If your operating system is supported, configure will go
>> thru
>> > > > > cleanly,
>> > > > > > > > otherwise it will report an error (please send us the
>> details of
>> > > > your
>> > > > > > > > OS/JDK, or a patch against the sources)."
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Below is the console output running configure and some
>> > > information
>> > > > > > about
>> > > > > > > > the jdk installed.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > [ec2-user@ip-10-244-162-78 unix]$ *./configure*
>> > > > > > > > *** Current host ***
>> > > > > > > > checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
>> > > > > > > > checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
>> > > > > > > > checking cached host system type... ok
>> > > > > > > > *** C-Language compilation tools ***
>> > > > > > > > checking for gcc... gcc
>> > > > > > > > checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
>> > > > > > > > checking whether the C compiler works... yes
>> > > > > > > > checking whether we are cross compiling... no
>> > > > > > > > checking for suffix of executables...
>> > > > > > > > checking for suffix of object files... o
>> > > > > > > > checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
>> > > > > > > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
>> > > > > > > > checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
>> > > > > > > > checking for ranlib... ranlib
>> > > > > > > > checking for strip... strip
>> > > > > > > > *** Host support ***
>> > > > > > > > checking C flags dependant on host system type... ok
>> > > > > > > > *** Java compilation tools ***
>> > > > > > > > *checking for JDK os include directory... Cannot find
>> jni_md.h in
>> > > > > > > > /usr/lib/jvm/jre/*
>> > > > > > > > *configure: error: You should retry --with-os-type=SUBDIR*
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > [ec2-user@ip-10-244-162-78 unix]$ find / -name 'jni_md.h'
>> > > > > 2>/dev/null
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > [ec2-user@ip-10-244-162-78 unix]$ find / -name '*jni*'
>> > > 2>/dev/null
>> > > > > > > > /usr/share/java-jni
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> /datadisk1/tomcat/bin/commons-daemon-1.0.10-native-src/windows/src/javajni.c
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> /datadisk1/tomcat/bin/commons-daemon-1.0.10-native-src/windows/include/javajni.h
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Installed Packages
>> > > > > > > > java-1.6.0-openjdk.i686
>> > > installed
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------
>> > > > > > > > [ec2-user@ip-10-244-162-78 unix]$ *./configure
>> > > > > > > > -with-java=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/jre*
>> > > > > > > > *** Current host ***
>> > > > > > > > checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
>> > > > > > > > checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
>> > > > > > > > checking cached host system type... ok
>> > > > > > > > *** C-Language compilation tools ***
>> > > > > > > > checking for gcc... gcc
>> > > > > > > > checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
>> > > > > > > > checking whether the C compiler works... yes
>> > > > > > > > checking whether we are cross compiling... no
>> > > > > > > > checking for suffix of executables...
>> > > > > > > > checking for suffix of object files... o
>> > > > > > > > checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
>> > > > > > > > checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
>> > > > > > > > checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
>> > > > > > > > checking for ranlib... ranlib
>> > > > > > > > checking for strip... strip
>> > > > > > > > *** Host support ***
>> > > > > > > > checking C flags dependant on host system type... ok
>> > > > > > > > *** Java compilation tools ***
>> > > > > > > > checking JAVA_HOME...
>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/jre
>> > > > > > > > *checking for JDK os include directory... Cannot find
>> jni_md.h in
>> > > > > > > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0/jre/*
>> > > > > > > > *configure: error: You should retry --with-os-type=SUBDIR*
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------
>> > > > > > > > configure script excerpt:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > echo "$as_me:$LINENO: checking for JDK os include directory"
>> > > > >&5
>> > > > > > > > echo $ECHO_N "checking for JDK os include directory...
>> $ECHO_C"
>> > > >&6
>> > > > > > > > JAVA_OS=NONE
>> > > > > > > > if test -f $JAVA_HOME/$JAVA_INC/jni_md.h
>> > > > > > > > then
>> > > > > > > > JAVA_OS=""
>> > > > > > > > else
>> > > > > > > > for f in $JAVA_HOME/$JAVA_INC/*/jni_md.h
>> > > > > > > > do
>> > > > > > > > if test -f $f; then
>> > > > > > > > JAVA_OS=`dirname $f`
>> > > > > > > > JAVA_OS=`basename $JAVA_OS`
>> > > > > > > > echo " $JAVA_OS"
>> > > > > > > > break
>> > > > > > > > fi
>> > > > > > > > done
>> > > > > > > > if test "x$JAVA_OS" = "xNONE"; then
>> > > > > > > > echo "$as_me:$LINENO: result: Cannot find jni_md.h in
>> > > > > > > > ${JAVA_HOME}/${OS}" >&5
>> > > > > > > > echo "${ECHO_T}Cannot find jni_md.h in ${JAVA_HOME}/${OS}"
>> >&6
>> > > > > > > > { { echo "$as_me:$LINENO: error: You should retry
>> > > > > > > > --with-os-type=SUBDIR" >&5
>> > > > > > > > echo "$as_me: error: You should retry --with-os-type=SUBDIR"
>> > > >&2;}
>> > > > > > > > { (exit 1); exit 1; }; }
>> > > > > > > > fi
>> > > > > > > > fi
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Fred
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Jeff MAURY
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "Legacy code" often differs from its suggested alternative by
>> > > > actually
>> > > > > > > working and scaling.
>> > > > > > > - Bjarne Stroustrup
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > http://www.jeffmaury.com
>> > > > > > > http://riadiscuss.jeffmaury.com
>> > > > > > > http://www.twitter.com/jeffmaury
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>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Jeff MAURY
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Legacy code" often differs from its suggested alternative by
>> actually
>> > > > > working and scaling.
>> > > > > - Bjarne Stroustrup
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://www.jeffmaury.com
>> > > > > http://riadiscuss.jeffmaury.com
>> > > > > http://www.twitter.com/jeffmaury
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Jeff MAURY
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Legacy code" often differs from its suggested alternative by actually
>> > > working and scaling.
>> > > - Bjarne Stroustrup
>> > >
>> > > http://www.jeffmaury.com
>> > > http://riadiscuss.jeffmaury.com
>> > > http://www.twitter.com/jeffmaury
>> > >
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