Hi Volker,
I don't get if you are fooling me or what. you call 7 classes a "project",
when 85% or more of that is a copycat of your code ?

I don't call it a project, I call it a demo, a contribution "already
forked, already died, nobody cares".
If you don't agree with this definition, i can understand: you haven't the
need to fork.
Do you really think that the author copied so much for a different reason
that he had no choice, except hoping that you will integrate the idea in a
module, where it belongs ?

And yes, sarcasm again. After all,it's the more appropriate answer to
condescension.

Because if you get a technical(o strategic, as you wish) advice and you
tell me "It's a bad idea, we don't want to taint our splendid framework
putting that ***** of spring in the frontline", that is a serious answer.
People will see it, and does their Math.
if you(Ben) quote the entire history of open source, licensing(remember,
85%), no-time(10 years) ecc.., and you(you) suggest ME to continue
refreshing the copy/paste routine of YOUR code in another repo ?

Then you must be kidding. Very professional.
And no thanks, I already had been there, putting a fork of your code in the
trashcan because at each version the internals changes(when it wasn't
javascript).
if YOU want, I'll send you the project privately, rewritten with feet, but
it works and has the right dependencies resolved for spring boot 3.3.5 and
jakarta in the pom.
Your effort will be only the gradle module and code restyle.

Have fun


Il giorno mar 12 mag 2026 alle ore 11:32 Volker Lamp <[email protected]> ha
scritto:

> Hi Giulio,
>
> I think Ben's reply was actually quite thorough and good-faith — he
> explained the real constraints the project faces, outlined concrete
> ideas for improvement, and even invited further contributions.
> Summarizing it as "fork or die" doesn't do it justice.
>
> That said, your frustration is understandable, and the points you raised
> about the developer experience are welcome. (The aggressive/sarcastic
> tone isn't, though.) The javax/jakarta migration was painful for
> everyone, and Spring Boot-style bootstrapping — just adding a dependency
> and having things work — is what many find convenient.
>
> We're a small team of volunteers, and we genuinely can't do everything —
> but that also means contributions from people who have just gone through
> the pain of modernizing old code are especially valuable. You clearly
> have a good understanding of what's missing. You could contribute back
> to the community by taking "ownership" of tapestry-boot. Happy to
> include a reference to it on the Tapestry website.
>
> The door is open.
>
> Cheers
>
> Volker
>
>
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