Technologies such as Tapestry are not more deprecated than Wicket neither
worst. Wicked has its benefits, but also quite a lot of weakness. Wicket is
very verbose and annoying to refactor, I can’t see any advantage of Wicket over
Tapestry.
Regarding new technologies, there are plenty of new technologies, new doesn’t
mean good :) I enjoy ajax application, micros service architecture, but for
data entry application they don’t ad any value.
Ajax application, whatever framework, you use are a nightmare to debug who you
have 100K+ lines of code… javascript is just another scripting language used by
novice programmer that thinks they are kings of the world because they manage
to write 3 lines of code. Every framework has its use cases, Tapestry is good
at rapid development and prototyping application. It mixes well with ajax
frameworks. Vaadin is also cool :)
Just don’t use it if you don’t like it…
> Le 4 juil. 2019 à 16:47, Charles Roth <cr...@thedance.net> a écrit :
>
> Emmanuel:
>
> Do you seriously NOT realize what is going on here? YOU were the first
> person to start calling people names. YOU are the one using "ad hominem"
> arguments about Tapestry users. YOU are the one crying "Mom, he hit me back
> first!"
>
> I actually AGREE with you that it's past time to move on from Tapestry. I'm
> a senior architect for a company with a large Tapestry app that has been
> engaged in exactly that direction for ~2 years. (And no, they chose Tapestry
> before I got there.) But a million lines of code doesn't turn on a dime.
> In the meantime, there are kind and thoughtful people on this list who are
> HELPING EACH OTHER.
>
> But your overbearing, insulting messages destroy any validity to your
> message. (Which is a real pity, because you are correct about the
> technology.) You're not persecuted: you're whining. Don't believe me: read
> an expert, say "Uncle Bob" Martin ("Clean Coder") about how to work with
> PEOPLE.
>
> On 7/4/2019 6:05 AM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote:
>> Lance,
>>
>> I am not hating Tapestry, I am only a messenger preaching the good news
>> that the world has moved on and left behind antiquated frameworks like
>> Tapestry. Even the founder, Howard Lewis Ship, the captain of this Tapestry
>> ship, has long left this sinking ship. He is now using other better and
>> modern frameworks. Damn, he even used Wicket on his client's project.
>> I am not surprised Tapestry cult followers like you always want to
>> persecute the messenger by calling me names. I am sure you would thank me
>> in the future for opening your eyes.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:04 PM Lance Java
>> <lance.j...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Emmanuel Sowah - I think you deserve some form of long service award.
>>> You've been hating on Tapestry for over 13 years now. Way to hold a grudge
>>> dude!
>>>
>>> https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
>>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, 10:18 am Emmanuel Sowah, <eso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of course it's understandable that they are going to deprecate it. What
>>>> kind of creatures are you still stuck to a failed and stone-age framework
>>>> like Tapestry? Even the original creator, Howard Lewis Ship, has
>>> abandoned
>>>> it for better frameworks like React, Angular and Wicket. Guys, wake up
>>> and
>>>> stop wasting your time.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:46 PM Nicolas Bouillon <nico...@bouillon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure if many of you are using the Tapestry plugins of IntellJ
>>>> Ultimate.
>>>>> I do and it's very handy to navigate fastly between components and for
>>>> code
>>>>> completion in templates.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2019/06/plugin-deprecations-in-intellij-idea-v2019-2/
>>>>> Tapestry is my favorite framework, and I haven't found any replacement
>>>> with
>>>>> the killing features such as Live Class Reloading (natively) and
>>>> excellent
>>>>> error reporting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep up the good work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicolas.
>>>>>
>
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