Agree with your point :-)

Last year, i built an Eclipse WTP based TapestryTools, i think i have
finished much features, it may be powerful and welcome, but it has not
many users at last. I am some kind of disappoint.

After discuss with Igor, we thought we should change the way, give up
much *heavy* optional features but focus on practical key features,
and keep this tool simple.

So we would like to work this way:
Concentrate on simple stuff first then do optional, prefer to have a
minimal feature set that works perfect
than having a lot of features that work not to 100%.

In fact, i thought about this feature, when i considered into details,
i found it is not easy to make it perfect. So i will add this into my
proposal as first optional feature. After i finished necessary
features, i will try to add another Java Class tab in the TML editor.

2012/3/20 Ulrich Stärk <u...@spielviel.de>:
> I saw that in your proposal and I'd also keep the shortcut. In fact the 
> shortcut could be used to
> switch between the tabs. But opening the class and the template in the same 
> window would emphasis
> that they belong together and in most cases they are also edited together. 
> It's just an additional
> idea to consider but I think it would be very useful.
>
> Uli
>
> On 20.03.2012 14:50, Gavin Lei wrote:
>> Hi Uli,
>>
>> I know what is your mean, you would like a multi-tab editor with both
>> Java class tab and .tml tab. This is a good solution to switch between
>> Tapestry's page/component class file and .tml tempate file.
>>
>> But in my current plan, we would like to supply another solution, it
>> will also supply convenient way to switch between Tapestry's
>> page/component class file and .tml tempate file:
>>
>> When you are editing Tapestry's page/component class file, just click
>> a icon in Eclipse toolbar or use "CTRL + R" command, it will find and
>> open corresponding .tml template file (using our TML editor) for you.
>>
>> And you can also find its corresponding class file when you are
>> editing .tml template file in this way. So, i think this solution can
>> also meet you need :-)
>>
>> Your idea ?
>>
>>
>> 2012/3/20 Ulrich Stärk <u...@spielviel.de>:
>>> I don't know whether this has come up before or already is in the planning. 
>>> Something that I'd find
>>> useful would be if opening a component class automatically also opened the 
>>> component template and
>>> you'd have something similar to the tabs at the bottom of the XML editor 
>>> window where you can switch
>>> between the "Design" and "Source" view. Only that in a Tapestry context it 
>>> would be "Class" and
>>> "Template" or just "Class" if a component doesn't have a template.
>>>
>>> Uli
>>>
>>> On 20.03.2012 14:20, Gavin Lei wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> In order to reduce users' install difficulty, after discussion with
>>>> Igor, we decide to supply Eclipse Marketplace support as well as
>>>> individual update center once this XML editor based lightweight
>>>> TapestryTools get stable release version. I have updated my project
>>>> proposal already[1].
>>>>
>>>> After that, Eclipse with Marketplace client(Such as Eclipse IDE for
>>>> Java developer) users can install this lightweight TapestryTools from
>>>> menu Help -> Eclipse Marketplace very easily.
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://code.google.com/p/tapestrytools/
>>>>
>>>> 在 2012年3月15日 下午8:48,Gavin Lei <gavingui2...@gmail.com> 写道:
>>>>> Yeah, right, i forgot this point, i will add this point into the proposal 
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> 在 2012年3月15日 下午7:19,Igor Drobiazko <igor.drobia...@gmail.com> 写道:
>>>>>> Hey Gavin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> one comment on 5. Autocompletion features: The autocompletion should also
>>>>>> work for fields annotated with @Property, not only plain getters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Besides that the features set looks good. I think the result will be an
>>>>>> awesome tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/3/4 Gavin Lei <gavingui2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After series of survey and experiment job, now i make clear of Eclipse
>>>>>>> based light weight TapestryTools implement solution. Now i have
>>>>>>> finished the draft version of project proposal, you guys can find it
>>>>>>> here [1].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to explain the whole things more clear, i added some pictures
>>>>>>> in the proposal, so it is not so convenient to post the whole proposal
>>>>>>> in mail list here. But here is the best place to read feedback and
>>>>>>> discuss :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Igor and I really want to build a really popular Tapestry 5 visual
>>>>>>> editor this year, we hope that all the Tapestry developers will use it
>>>>>>> and like it in the future. At the beginning, we will not supply much
>>>>>>> dazzling features, but we will focus on basic and pivotal key
>>>>>>> features, build a simple but practical tool which will really reduce
>>>>>>> Tapestry's development workload.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One more time, feedback is welcome, both here or left comments in the
>>>>>>> proposal URL. You guys can improve it with me together, thank you :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] 
>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/tapestrytools/wiki/Light_weight_TapestryTools
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>> Gavin Lei (雷银)
>>>>>>> Email: gavingui2...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Igor Drobiazko
>>>>>> http://tapestry5.de
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/drobiazko
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> Gavin Lei (雷银)
>>>>> Email: gavingui2...@gmail.com
>>>>
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