Yeah, missed that. Thanks.

On 30/08/2011, at 3:50 PM, Robert Zeigler wrote:

> Tapestry will only throw an exception if there's a getter and "read" (from 
> @Property) is true, or there's a setter and "write" is true.  If "write" is 
> false, then tapestry doesn't attempt to generate a setter, and you're fine.  
> In the case of the original post, "write=false", so no exception was thrown.
> 
> Robert
> 
> On Aug 30, 2011, at 8/3012:43 AM , Geoff Callender wrote:
> 
>> Maybe I'm confused too. 
>> It's OK to use @Property together with @Parameter. eg. 
>> 
>>      
>> http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart/examples/component/creatingcomponents
>> 
>> It's not OK to use @Property AND a getter or setter. It SHOULD HAVE thrown a 
>> runtime exception. if it didn't, then I'd say please file in JIRA.
>> 
>>      From 
>> http://tapestry.apache.org/current/apidocs/org/apache/tapestry5/annotations/Property.html
>>  : 
>>      "The annotation will not overwrite an existing getter or setter method; 
>> if you put a Property annotation on a field that already has a getter or a 
>> setter you will see a runtime exception."
>> 
>> As for having Tapestry call the setter during component activation, I'm not 
>> keen. The setter is for use by component event requests. To me, sharing it 
>> with component activation sounds like a recipe for trouble. Better to stick 
>> to setupRender.
>> 
>> BTW, I wonder whether the need for, and intention of, 
>> getters/setters/@Property should be spelled out more clearly early in the 
>> Users Guide?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Geoff
>> 
>> On 30/08/2011, at 12:58 PM, robert baker wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe I'm confused here, but @Parameter and @Property seem to be
>>> orthogonal and not mutually exclusive.
>>> 
>>> (from the point-of-view of the component)
>>> @Parameter : data flows from container to this field (and vice versa)
>>> @Property : data flows from contained components to this field (and vice 
>>> versa)
>>> 
>>> I've had components where both @Parameter and @Property were placed on
>>> the same field, like when I wrapped a Checkbox.  (Though, most use
>>> cases where you would put both annotations (like wrappers) seem to be
>>> covered by publishing the necessary parameters.)
>>> 
>>> I think, though, the original problem that was put forth of having a
>>> parameter constructor called at component instantiation time sounds
>>> interesting.  I know that you can have a parameter programmatically
>>> default if unbound, but I don't think there is a "shadow setter" that
>>> you can wire to get called all the time for property-bound parameters.
>>> 
>>> Just my $.02
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Les Baker
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Taha Hafeez <tawus.tapes...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yes, please
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Jens Breitenstein <mailingl...@j-b-s.de> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Taha, hi Josh!
>>>>> 
>>>>> well, that's what my gut feeling told me too. Should I raise a jira issue?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 29.08.11 16:36, schrieb Taha Hafeez:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Josh Canfield<joshcanfi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sounds like a defect. If there is setter I can't think of a reason that
>>>>>>> @Parameter shouldn't use it.
>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2011 6:15 AM, "Taha Hafeez"<tawus.tapes...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> @Parameters do not use setters. They create a conduit to set/get the
>>>>>>>> values directly , so setters are never used.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You can look at the code of ParameterWorker for details
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> you can always use setupRender to setup things
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Jens 
>>>>>>>> Breitenstein<mailingl...@j-b-s.de>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I tried to use a combination of @Property and @Parameter.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> @Property(read = true, write = false)
>>>>>>>>> @Parameter(required = true)
>>>>>>>>> private String _myParam;
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately it seems to be impossible to "intercept" a set in such a
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> // ---->>  NEVER CALLED
>>>>>>>>> public void String setMyParam(final String param)
>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>  _myParam = param;
>>>>>>>>>  // do more...
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Is there any reason this is not allowed?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jens
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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